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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have no idea who "the father" is,
    I know.

    You would not continue believing the hoax if you did. You are an intelligent person after all.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    All of the people I know who believe that Bush lied/mislead the country believe so because of their own analysis of the situation not because some "father" of whatever told them to believe it.
    Yes I know. That "analysis" is based on a hoax.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Bush and his administration knew he wasn't growing and gathering, and that the intel used to sell the war was seriously flawed. To know that, and they did, and say otherwise is the definition of lying.
    You need to read the Senate pre-war intelligence report of 2004.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    You need to read the Senate pre-war intelligence report of 2004.
    I've read it enough times. And I'm correct in what I say.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Yes I know. That "analysis" is based on a hoax.
    That too is false.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    NO BLOOD FOR ITALIAN OIL!!!!!!!
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I'm sorry but you will have to try this on someone else.

    My memory isn't that bad yet. I haven't forgotten the first decade of this century.
    Both parties believe in spreading democracy in the interests of U.S...that's not difficult to remember. The conservative (in the literal sense of the word) foreign policy that I want is no where to be found, which is why I was, as I said, "not surprised". Thanks for playing.
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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You forgot the main reason, the reason that really sold the war--the threat to the US that had to be dealt with immediately.
    Well...ya know...if you ask every elected democrat official from 1992 til after Bush declared war (or at least read their comments) on Iraq, Hussein, and their possession and use of WMDs you would certainly find that every democrat supported that notion...right up until it was no longer politically expedient to do so. Thats why I hate politicians and mindless ideologues.
    So, for a decade or so "every elected democrat official" thought that Saddam had to be dealt with immediately? Are you sure?
    Perhaps they just recognized the danger but didn't think of Hussein as an imminent threat that had to be dealt with immediately.
    I don't know if such a distinction can be made. Can it?
    Is it possible to recognize a potential threat and at the same time to recognize that the threat is not an immediate, imminent one that needs to be dealt with posthaste? Is that even possible?
    I may be wrong.

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I don't care if the Libyan people like us or not. As long as the new government is free and peaceful it's a win-win for the US and the free world.
    To assume that everyone else would naturally want to give up their chains to be like us. Well they don't. They like doing things their way for the most part and those differences make it difficult to impossible to run a country the way we do. UNLESS WE DESTROY THEIR CULTURE AND REPLACE IT WITH OUR OWN. And that is something we will never do. We don't have the will to start it or to carry it out over the generations necessary to achieve it. Hell, we've stopped making immigrants to this country adopt the American culture, so what makes anyone think we'd do it to someone else in another country!!

    Waht will happen is one of those false rebel presidents will just keep getting elected. And they'll ask for monetary support from the US and forgiveness of debts by the European countries. That will be the worst case scenario.

    Who will pay for that? Take a guess

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    re: White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What we're doing now is just gambling that the false rebels will win with our support. What we're putting on the gambling table are American lives that will be lost if a successful Gadafi/Kaddafi retaliates against us with a terror attack.

    If Gaddafi wants to weather the storm he needs to pull his forces into civ territory and wait until the "false" rebels make their move. We end up with a divided country and have another Somalia.

    Thatís what you want, right?
    That's certainly a possible outcome.

    The "false" rebels might win, chase out Gaddafi, and establish a free and peaceful government. IMO that's always been the best outcome since this started a month ago and we should do everything short of thousands of US Marines to see it through.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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