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    SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    PIERRE, S.D.—South Dakota Gov. Dennis Daugaard signed a law Tuesday requiring women to wait three days after meeting with a doctor to have an abortion, the longest waiting period in the nation.
    Abortion rights groups have already said they plan to file a lawsuit challenging the measure, which also requires women to undergo counseling at pregnancy help centers that discourage abortions.
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    Props to SD. An informed decision not made on a whim is a better decision and less likely to cause lasting psychological trauma later.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Props to SD. An informed decision not made on a whim is a better decision and less likely to cause trauma later.
    What exactly is that 3 day wait going to accomplish? The fact of the matter is that some people just aren't going to be a suitable parent. Why make the child suffer in the long run? I think abortion is far more humane than raising a child in a potentially abusive and neglectful environment. Pro-life people are very gung ho about keeping fetuses alive, but when they become children they start to lose interest.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    What exactly is that 3 day wait going to accomplish? The fact of the matter is that some people just aren't going to be a suitable parent. Why make the child suffer in the long run? I think abortion is far more humane than raising a child in a potentially abusive and neglectful environment. Pro-life people are very gung ho about keeping fetuses alive, but when they become children they start to lose interest.
    I don't buy the humanitarian abortion argument, besides I could make the charge against "pro-choice" people. They'll support you as long as your choice is aborting. Choose to have the baby and they're nowhere to be seen.

    Anyway, the waiting period and counseling are to be sure someone knows what's a stake in such an important decision.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

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    SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law - The Denver Post

    Props to SD. An informed decision not made on a whim is a better decision and less likely to cause lasting psychological trauma later.
    I like this law..


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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't buy the humanitarian abortion argument, besides I could make the charge against "pro-choice" people. They'll support you as long as your choice is aborting. Choose to have the baby and they're nowhere to be seen.
    WTF? I don't think I've ever seen a pro-choice person saying you should be forced to have an abortion.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    WTF? I don't think I've ever seen a pro-choice person saying you should be forced to have an abortion.
    Nevertheless, shouldn't the choice to have the baby be equally supported if you're pro choice?

    BTW, I don't want to force people to have children. I just think that choice needs to be made before there's a baby in the picture.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't buy the humanitarian abortion argument, besides I could make the charge against "pro-choice" people. They'll support you as long as your choice is aborting. Choose to have the baby and they're nowhere to be seen.

    Anyway, the waiting period and counseling are to be sure someone knows what's a stake in such an important decision.
    You don't buy it? The evidence speaks for itself. If a woman is determined to have an abortion and is, for whatever reason, forced to raise the child...how well do you think that child is going to do? Also, are you really arrogant enough to think that most women who get abortions don't know what is at stake or take it as an important decision? It's easy to judge these women when you aren't the one carrying the fetus for 9 months and going through all that pregnancy and birth entails.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law - The Denver Post

    Props to SD. An informed decision not made on a whim is a better decision and less likely to cause lasting psychological trauma later.
    Of course, conservatives hate the idea of government getting in the middle of people's affairs...

    Conservatives hates the idea of the government forcing a middle man between patients and their doctors... etc.

    Unless of course they don't like what completely legal decisions people are making.

    Any "conservative" that supports this crap should switch their lean to "somewhat conservative".
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Nevertheless, shouldn't the choice to have the baby be equally supported if you're pro choice?
    Umm, yes?
    Are you implying that it isn't?
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Nevertheless, shouldn't the choice to have the baby be equally supported if you're pro choice?

    BTW, I don't want to force people to have children. I just think that choice needs to be made before there's a baby in the picture.
    Yes, it should be equally supported. I could even deal with a 3 day waiting period, but sending the person to a counselor that is specifically there to talk the person out of having an abortion is wrong. I'd also wonder who's job it is to make sure that these clinics don't cause these women more pain with false information. Is the state going to give them guidelines on what to tell women or are they just going to preach to them for hours?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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