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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

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    Are you telling me that advocates of abortion are not counseling these women now?

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    Are you saying that people who consider getting an abortion are mandated by law to get counseling from PP? Because they are not.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

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    What would be wrong with counseling the woman fully before making a choice like that? I thought liberals were all for informed decisions?

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    Because everyone knows that this "counseling" is coercive in nature. By this logic, we should also mandate counseling for all those who chose to have the child in order to explain the benefits of abortion.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Because everyone knows that this "counseling" is coercive in nature. By this logic, we should also mandate counseling for all those who chose to have the child in order to explain the benefits of abortion.
    Ha! I hadn't thought of it that way, very interesting.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you telling me that advocates of abortion are not counseling these women now?

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    Most pro-choice people aren't "advocates of abortion". They are pro-choice, which means that they aren't interested in coercing women to have abortions or not have abortions, they're interested in letting the woman use her own mind to make that decision. They usually aren't, if they are ever, interested in counselling women with aim of getting them to have an abortion. It's about respecting a woman's ability to make her OWN decisions, not counselling her into respecting someone else's morality.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Sounds eerily similar to gun laws.

    Tell you what libs, we'll get rid of the abortion wait time if you'll agree to get rid of the gun purchase wait time.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Sounds eerily similar to gun laws.

    Tell you what libs, we'll get rid of the abortion wait time if you'll agree to get rid of the gun purchase wait time.
    LOL i had to laugh at that good one man.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    You're pregnant for a hell of a long time - 3 days isn't very long and it will ensure that the situation has been thoroughly contemplated.

    I support thought-out and well informed abortion - not knee-jerk reaction abortion.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Personally I can't wait long enough until technology is advanced enough to make childbirth a privilege rather than something any two morons or careless teenagers can get together and do. This idea of mine will probably spark a whole nother debate lol.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Because everyone knows that this "counseling" is coercive in nature. By this logic, we should also mandate counseling for all those who chose to have the child in order to explain the benefits of abortion.

    Of planned Parenthood own coercive tactics.....

    In the undercover video, when the two women ask a Planned Parenthood counselor if the pregnant woman’s 10-week-old unborn child has a heartbeat, the counselor emphasizes “heart tones,” and answers, “Heart beat is when the fetus is active in the uterus–can survive–which is about seventeen or eighteen weeks.” On the contrary, embryologists agree that the heartbeat begins around 3 weeks. Wisconsin informed consent law requires that women receive medically accurate information before undergoing an abortion.

    The counselor then says, “A fetus is what’s in the uterus right now. That is not a baby.” Dr. Polhaska, the abortion doctor, insists, “It’s not a baby at this stage or anything like that.” Polhaska also states that having an abortion will be “much safer than having a baby,” warning, “You know, women die having babies.” …

    The investigation is organized by Live Action, a nonprofit student group. Lila Rose, the 21-year-old UCLA student and Live Action president, says medical lies and manipulative counseling are routine at Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion chain.

    “They will do or say anything in order to sell more abortions to more women, whether it is covering up sexual abuse or lying to women about medical facts,” says Rose. “Our team has visited dozens of Planned Parenthood clinics undercover. Planned Parenthood, while claiming to support patient self-determination, operates with an ‘abortion-first mentality.’”

    Planned Parenthood: “That’s not a baby growing inside of you” « Hot Air


    So when a counter to PP was formed in NYC across the street, do you know what happened to them?

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