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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Uh, believe it or not, we evil conservatives do support government intervening when a murder is about to take place.
    Well, not everybody in union believes abortion is murder, and that includes some pro lifers. Yep, I know quite a few lifers whom argue abortion is wrong, but they don't personally believe it's murder. I also know people whom believe turning off a life support system is murder. I don't agree with that either.

    How would you feel if the government forced you to sit in a room and get an ear full from an activist, whom views you as a murder, because you decided to pull the plug on your loved one's life support system?
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So any time we can take pain away, we can terminate.

    Coma, anyone?

    Even better, we can just put unwanted children under a general anesthetic. No pin, no 'personhood'.
    Perhaps I should qualify: If the person is capable of feeling pain.

    Perhaps a better argument is the argument for sustainable consciousness (one of the reasons it is legal to "pull the plug" on those in a coma).
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshytz View Post
    How do you determine when a fetus feel pain?
    Science. It is quite possible to determine when anything close to a brain is being formed, as well as major milestones in brain activity, such as the ability to feel pain, etc.

    Last I checked, nothing is felt before 24 weeks and it is highly unlikely for anything to be felt before 28 weeks.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Science. It is quite possible to determine when anything close to a brain is being formed, as well as major milestones in brain activity, such as the ability to feel pain, etc.

    Last I checked, nothing is felt before 24 weeks and it is highly unlikely for anything to be felt before 28 weeks.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    In that case, I agree both are dumb. The vast majority of people who buy firearms aren't looking to commit a crime, and I fail to see how a three-day wait period would stop a determined criminal. Maybe it would make some sense of most criminals who buy guns do it in a fit of impulsive passion, but I highly doubt that. The real problem is straw purchases.
    I think there is a background check involved as well.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Perhaps I should qualify: If the person is capable of feeling pain.

    Perhaps a better argument is the argument for sustainable consciousness (one of the reasons it is legal to "pull the plug" on those in a coma).
    So people with Hereditary Sensory Autonomic Neuropathy are not "people" according to you. Interesting.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So people with Hereditary Sensory Autonomic Neuropathy are not "people" according to you. Interesting.
    Check out the second part of that quote: Consciousness. Which I have decided is a much better argument.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Check out the second part of that quote: Consciousness. Which I have decided is a much better argument.
    Oh, so you oppose abortion past 8 weeks. Ok.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    The federal laws and federal court rulings that insist the states comply with an essentially uniform practice of fetal destruction. This kind of top-down imposition of morality was precisely what the Founders sought to avoid when they wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    This South Dakota law has to pass a review by federal judges to ensure it complies with precedents set by other federal rulings, even though the federal government doesn't have any authority in medical matters in the states.
    Oh, you're talking about federal safty guidlines that ALL clinics and hospitals are subject to? Well, DUH. We don't want people cutting others open with no antibiotics, painkillers, spare blood etc etc now do we? Those are just common sense laws that any fool would agree is needed for any medical procedure.

    Though what I think that you're trying to imply is that there are laws stating that abortion is legal. Am I right?
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. It's not fear-mongering. That's exactly what would happen.

    You speak with such certainty....And tell us all knowing one, how can you possibly know that? Look, all that would happen if Abortion in the form of RvW was overturned would be that the individual states would take it up, where it constitutionally should be in the first damned place. All you libs do is fear monger with this pap.

    2. Why would I put it up for an amendment, when it's already legal? I don't have to do ****.
    Well, aren't you proud....liberals succeeded with an end run around the constitution....bravo.

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