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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Nevertheless, shouldn't the choice to have the baby be equally supported if you're pro choice?

    BTW, I don't want to force people to have children. I just think that choice needs to be made before there's a baby in the picture.
    I think a choice needs to be made too, and it is. However, I don't think it's anyone's place to impose a 3 day wait or to lecture a woman who is doing this simply because you don't agree with her decision.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    You don't buy it? The evidence speaks for itself. If a woman is determined to have an abortion and is, for whatever reason, forced to raise the child...how well do you think that child is going to do?
    Killing them for their own good just doesn't resonate with me.

    Also, are you really arrogant enough to think that most women who get abortions don't know what is at stake or take it as an important decision?
    Well then, the counseling should make no difference for those people. For others though, it may open their eyes to things they didn't know. More information is a good thing, not a bad thing.

    It's easy to judge these women when you aren't the one carrying the fetus for 9 months and going through all that pregnancy and birth entails.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Killing them for their own good just doesn't resonate with me.
    That's fine, but that's also not what I'm saying.

    Well then, the counseling should make no difference for those people. For others though, it may open their eyes to things they didn't know. More information is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    It is assuming that your views on the subject are right. However, the only person whose views really matter on the subject are the woman who is carrying the fetus. It's nobody else's place to lecture or council.

    There's ways to not become pregnant.
    I never said there weren't. People aren't perfect, however, nor are contraceptives.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well then, the counseling should make no difference for those people. For others though, it may open their eyes to things they didn't know. More information is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    OK, I'll tell you what. Next time you want to drink or smoke or swear or gamble or have sex outside of marriage, we'll send you to counseling to have a time-out session where you can think about what you've done. It'll either make no difference to you, or it'll open your eyes to things you didn't know. More information is a good thing, right?

    Let's not kid ourselves: The purpose of this counseling is to treat women like children and make them learn their lesson.

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    There's ways to not become pregnant.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    More information is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    What if it's bad information?
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Of course, conservatives hate the idea of government getting in the middle of people's affairs...

    Conservatives hates the idea of the government forcing a middle man between patients and their doctors... etc.

    Unless of course they don't like what completely legal decisions people are making.

    Any "conservative" that supports this crap should switch their lean to "somewhat conservative".
    Generally, conservatives believe that protecting innocent life is a valid government function.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm, yes?
    Are you implying that it isn't?
    Implying it? No. I'm saying it. Pro choicers will go to the mat for abortion "rights" yet disappear like dust in the wind if the choice is to give birth.
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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Generally, conservatives believe that protecting innocent life is a valid government function.
    Abortions are legal. If you want that overturned then do it in the courts or change the constitution. Until then you're simply arguing for a nanny state. People apparently aren't smart enough to make their own decisions. Goes against conservative ideology perfectly but doesn't seem to phase you at all, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Implying it? No. I'm saying it. Pro choicers will go to the mat for abortion "rights" yet disappear like dust in the wind if the choice is to give birth.
    Oh, give me a break. It's called pro-CHOICE for a reason. My wife happens to be pregnant. Do you honestly think, because I'm pro-choice, that I'm advocating abortion?

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    Re: SD governor signs 3-day wait for abortion into law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Implying it? No. I'm saying it. Pro choicers will go to the mat for abortion "rights" yet disappear like dust in the wind if the choice is to give birth.
    I've never seen any pro-choice protesters outside of maternity wards demanding that the fetuses be aborted. I have, however, seen plenty of pro-life protesters outside of abortion clinics demanding that they not be.
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