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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    I wonder how many of those were legitimate kills.

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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Another Bash the U.S. Military Thread.

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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I wonder how many of those were legitimate kills.
    Does not matter. Taking photos in such a manner is at best disgusting and morally wrong, and at worst a political and PR mine field for the US. No matter how legit they were, the very fact that there are photos is enough to label all the kills as "innocent civilians" or what ever tag the opposition wants to place on it.

    Like it or not, these soldiers are not only possible criminals but they have put the lives of every NATO and US solider in Afghanistan at risk and dishonored the US military. It is a political and PR nightmare for any US administration regardless of political leaning.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I wonder how many of those were legitimate kills.
    without the facts you couldn't say.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Another Bash the U.S. Military Thread.
    i don't see it like that. only a fool would suggest that the actions of those soldiers reflect the entire military and those pieces of **** in no way represent everyone who is serving their Country. what they did was wrong so stand up for what is right and move on.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    even with the facts saying would be difficult.

    but Pete (can't believe i'm saying this) is right. Irrespective, you don't take pictures. : strategic corporal gone wrong.

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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    There is nothing debatable here. It seems to me that the main intent of the OP is to demonize the US military.
    If you are saying the reason this thread was posted on DP was to demonize the U.S. military, I disagree. I might have posted this thread, and I have nothing but respect for the U.S. Military. But maybe I misunderstand you.

    As a nation, we cannot send our young men and women into war zones and then be shocked and mortified when things like this happen. Wait, let me rephrase that. "We shouldn't be that surprised when something like this happens." This is a part of war, folks. When the "proper mix" of soldiers are thrown together, this so-called Kill Group, their chemistry of fear, machismo, adrenelin, stress, and the fact that we ask these people to put aside their natural aversion to killing, results in **** like this. It's wrong when it does. But every single damn time we send our troops into harm's way, we risk these kinds of atrocities.

    These men are not monsters, in my opinion. They are casualties of war themselves.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Another Bash the U.S. Military Thread.
    i don't see it like that. only a fool would suggest that the actions of those soldiers reflect the entire military and those pieces of **** in no way represent everyone who is serving their Country. what they did was wrong so stand up for what is right and move on.
    Well it says something about the military and their role in these countries as occupiers that this is even possible.

    These men are not monsters, in my opinion. They are casualties of war themselves.
    I would phrase this differently. I would say that they were living in conditions which brought this about, i.e. a violent military occupation of a foreign country.

    I see where you're coming from but I wouldn't be so apologetic as to label them "victims". They're victims the same way that any of us are "victims" to our environment. Regardless, they still chose to do this.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I see where you're coming from but I wouldn't be so apologetic as to label them "victims". They're victims the same way that any of us are "victims" to our environment. Regardless, they still chose to do this.
    I didn't label them victims. I labeled them casualties of war. You're right they chose it. I agree with your pointing out their living conditions. Yes. That's it exactly. If it's anything like Viet Nam and Korea, and I'm sure there are many similarities, our soldiers never feel safe. That must be horrible.
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    Re: The 'Kill Team' Images--US Army soldiers in Afghanistan killed innocent civilians

    I'm sure there are many similarities, our soldiers never feel safe.
    Neither do the civilians they terrorize.
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