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    Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    SANAA, Yemen – Rival tanks deployed in the streets of Yemen's capital Monday after three senior army commanders defected to a movement calling for the ouster of the U.S.-backed president, radically depleting his support among the country's most powerful institutions.
    Here we go again. Another day, another war in an Arab nation. But here is what I am about to make my point with:

    Some of the division's tanks and armored vehicles then deployed in the square, which protesters have occupied for more than a month to call for the resignation of President Ali Abdullah Saleh after 32 years in power. An increasingly violent crackdown on the demonstrations escalated dramatically on Friday when Saleh's forces opened fire from rooftops, killing more 40 in an assault that caused much of his remaining power base to splinter.
    That's right. He is killing his own people too, just like Khadafi. Do we order up a no fly zone in Yemen too? And what about the next dictator who fires on his own people? And the one after that? And don't tell me you didn't see this coming. I could see it plain as day.

    What's for dinner today, you ask? Worms. Another can of them has been opened, and as I always say, waste not, want not. If you supported Barack and Hillary on this, the meal is at YOUR table. Clean your plates! Eat it!

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    Mr. President, you are an idiot.

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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    Yemen has a lot of Al Qaida. Libya has some Al Qaida, but maybe less.

    There are fewer logical options for US intervention in Yemen. US Citizens have been warned to stay off the streets after dark in Yemen. I don't plan to go to Yemen, for the forseeable futuer.


    "Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, as its Yemen-based group is called, is "on the upswing," the official said. "The relative concern ratios are changing. We're more concerned now about AQAP than we were before."

    Al-Qaeda in Yemen is seen as more agile and aggressive, officials said. It took the group just a few months to set in motion a plot that succeeded in getting an alleged suicide bomber aboard a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas Day."


    CIA: Al Qaeda in Yemen Now Biggest Threat - CBS News



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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    These Tyrants who have been running wild for 30 to 40 years have all got to have mufti-millions stashed in banks all over and have to wonder what it is about power that they can't just get the hell out of Dodge, and live happily ever after.

    These idiots are risking their lives to stay in power. Why?

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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    These Tyrants who have been running wild for 30 to 40 years have all got to have mufti-millions stashed in banks all over and have to wonder what it is about power that they can't just get the hell out of Dodge, and live happily ever after.

    These idiots are risking their lives to stay in power. Why?
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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    I'm starting to get sick of the Middle East.
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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    That's right. He is killing his own people too, just like Khadafi. Do we order up a no fly zone in Yemen too? And what about the next dictator who fires on his own people? And the one after that? And don't tell me you didn't see this coming. I could see it plain as day.

    What's for dinner today, you ask? Worms. Another can of them has been opened, and as I always say, waste not, want not. If you supported Barack and Hillary on this, the meal is at YOUR table. Clean your plates! Eat it!
    The no-fly zone was a way of showing the Arab world that the west "cares" and won't sit idly by as demonstrators are massacred. If you haven't noticed, the Libya affair is getting quite a bit of publicity, to the point where other Arab/Middle Eastern movements aren't getting much air time at all, if any. This makes it seem like the west actually does care, when in reality - you are correct - they're just pulling a publicity stunt while at the same time getting their foot in the door on Libya's oil.
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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    Yemen is too close to Saudi Arabia for it to be comfortable with US or western intervention.

    Yemen is also too far away and isn't exactly surrounded by nations willing to host western aircraft so means most aircraft will have to be from carriers, ie US carriers. Thats a much harder and strenuous deployment and strain on resources than Libya's NFZ.

    Yemen doesn't seem to have an organized resistance the way Egypt or Libya has, therefore to whom are are benefiting with a no fly zone isn't harder to answer than Libya where its already difficult to tell what that revolution may turn into. In Libya we have the Bengazhi rebels and Egypt had its own military as an opposition force, or at least a force no longer willing to listen to the current gov't even tho it didnt answer to the people.

    Yemen doesn't have any aircraft away for the most part. Wikipedia says its less than 50 that are attack aircraft/helicopters, assuming they all even work, and although thats Wikipedia I doubt its much more, however Yemen does have a large amount of AA equipment probably because of Saudi Arabia which has a fairly modern air force, mostly due to US arm sales, and is often hostile towards Yemen. So since destroying enemy AA is a standard part of a NFZ, thats a whole lot of work for little gain.

    Yemen also isn't using its airforce at all, so what would the rioters gain from it being destroyed? Also most of the riots are taking place in big cities, namely the capital, so unless Yemen is going to drop bombs on its own capital with 50 style aircraft they won't be much of a threat unless tribes start revolting.

    Yemen also isn't in rebellion the way Libya is, its mostly just riots so far not enough organization to really be called a revolution or rebellion so there's not enough confidence any help provided will be used effectively and taken advantage of by anyone.

    So in short, we don't know who the rioters are ie what kind of gov't they want or who, if anyone is leading them and Yemen isn't using its airforce anyway.

    Now thats just a quick analysis, I'm not coming out on the pro/anti side of a NFZ in Libya or Yemen, Im just trying to show why its my opinion that a Libyan NFZ is: easier to accomplish, has a better chance to really change something, and makes a much bigger impact on the situation in the rebels favors.

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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The no-fly zone was a way of showing the Arab world that the west "cares" and won't sit idly by as demonstrators are massacred. If you haven't noticed, the Libya affair is getting quite a bit of publicity, to the point where other Arab/Middle Eastern movements aren't getting much air time at all, if any. This makes it seem like the west actually does care, when in reality - you are correct - they're just pulling a publicity stunt while at the same time getting their foot in the door on Libya's oil.
    What cynical motives you ascribe to those of us who are moved by rebels trying to take over their oppressive government. What American who's ever taken a history class in his life could not sympathize with a people fighting for their independence?

    I'm so tired of hearing, "It's about the oil," as if it's a horrible thing. It is in the best interests of every American that oil countries remain stable. If our oil supply is threatened in any meaningful way, especially while we are in the midst of the worst economic downturn since 1929, our way of life is at great risk.
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    Re: Rival tanks deploy in streets of Yemen's capital

    I'm so tired of hearing, "It's about the oil," as if it's a horrible thing. It is in the best interests of every American that oil countries remain stable. If our oil supply is threatened in any meaningful way, especially while we are in the midst of the worst economic downturn since 1929, our way of life is at great risk.
    As long as you're unapologetic about your imperialist ambitions, that's one thing (with which I obviously disagree). It's another to claim that this is solely about some benevolence on the part of the US government or NATO.
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