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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    BREAKING NEWS: Confirmed by Al Manara and other sources that Khamis Gaddafi has died today, as a result of burns
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    BREAKING NEWS: Confirmed by Al Manara and other sources that Khamis Gaddafi has died today, as a result of burns
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    (AGI) Tripoli - Khamis, Gaddafi's sixth son, was reportedly killed by the injuries suffered in a suicide bombing on Saturday. A Libyan pilot deliberately crashed his jet against the Bab al-Azizia barracks. Hospitalized in the intensive care unit of a Tripoli hospital, he reportedly died a few hours later. The news was disclosed by the Algerian newspaper Shuruk, which echoes the Al-Manara Libyan opposition's Website.
    However, the news has not been confirmed by the regime's media.
    AGI News On - LIBYA: WEBSITE, GADDAFI'S SON KILLED BY A SUICIDE-BOMBER


    Last time Gaddafi lost family members he changed his ways. He'll probably fight on though, too much money at stake. Does anyone know where Hosni Mubarak is now?
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This criticism only highlights the issue raised earlier when the Arab League adopted a hollow declaration in favor of a no fly zone. What was revealing at the time was that not one of the Arab League members devoted even a single military asset to enforcement of its declaration. The Arab League could have acted. But that wasn't its intent.

    IMO, the declaration was nothing but a cynical public relations effort aimed at making it appear that the Arab League was concerned about Libya. The declaration was hollow by design. That some Arab countries might provide some assets now that others have assumed the largest degree of risks and greatly degraded Gadhafi's air defenses does not change that. Not surprisingly, now that the no fly zone is being enforced, the Arab League is recoiling.
    While this is true, what they are annoyed about is that we are actively bombing Libya and our allies are arming the rebs. All they wanted was a no fly zone, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    man this was debunked even before the OP was posted...
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    While this is true, what they are annoyed about is that we are actively bombing Libya and our allies are arming the rebs. All they wanted was a no fly zone, nothing more, nothing less.
    They knew exactly that a no fly zone requires taking out air defenses that could target enforcement. They want their proverbial cake and to eat it, too. They adopted a declaration in favor of a no fly zone. They took no substantive measures whatsoever to enforce it e.g., sent no planes. Now that the Coalition has largely degraded Libya's air defenses, tactics that the Arab League is complaining about, the Arab League is willing to send some planes. In other words, now that others have borne the risks associated with making a no fly zone possible--efforts that the Arab League has criticized--the Arab League is willing to participate.

    In reality, words are cheap. The Arab League's lack of enforcement following its declaration of a no fly zone was revealing. It actions did not match its words. Had Western forces chosen not to participate, I have no doubt that the Arab League would still be sitting on the sidelines, having provided nothing but a hollow no fly zone declaration. A similar situation would have prevailed had the Gadhafi regime been permitted to maintain robust air defense capabilities.

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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    BREAKING NEWS: Confirmed by Al Manara and other sources that Khamis Gaddafi has died today, as a result of burns
    That report has not been confirmed. Until it is, the report is unsubstantiated and should be treated as such.
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Why are we involved in another war?! How do the American people benefit?
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    No matter how many billions we dump into the Middle East and no matter how many young Americans die fighting for them we will always be infidels to them.

    I really question if we have a vested interest in running into Libya. Do we oust Gaddafi only to have someone else step up into his position and then curse us?
    Libya is a part of the MENA problem that we have been dealing with since 9/11 (Despite, their declared war on us, we weren't dealing with it at all prior). And it is true that we will always be infidels as long as Islam exists. But "Great Satan" was a step up in the 1950s. This is what has to change and can. They only need to take responsibility for their own culture. The modernists already do. And as we have seen in prior years, their are far more modernist voices than radical voices. As the region improves, the "Great Satan" will subside. Very few, who have a life, ase so quick to throw it away in some damned crusade for God. When God shines down upon them again, then God will stop demanding blood sacrifice. This has always been what the poorly named "War on Terror" was. People automatically thought of a terrorist. But a region so thick with religious terror means that the region itself is the disease. And you don't cure a fever with an ice pack.
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    They knew exactly that a no fly zone requires taking out air defenses that could target enforcement. They want their proverbial cake and to eat it, too. They adopted a declaration in favor of a no fly zone. They took no substantive measures whatsoever to enforce it e.g., sent no planes. Now that the Coalition has largely degraded Libya's air defenses, tactics that the Arab League is complaining about, the Arab League is willing to send some planes. In other words, now that others have borne the risks associated with making a no fly zone possible--efforts that the Arab League has criticized--the Arab League is willing to participate.

    In reality, words are cheap. The Arab League's lack of enforcement following its declaration of a no fly zone was revealing. It actions did not match its words. Had Western forces chosen not to participate, I have no doubt that the Arab League would still be sitting on the sidelines, having provided nothing but a hollow no fly zone declaration. A similar situation would have prevailed had the Gadhafi regime been permitted to maintain robust air defense capabilities.

    No, they knew that, its just that the coalition is bombing Libyan tanks, see here as well.

    Edit: Although, this does bring up the hypocrisy of the US and its allies, how they are willing to aid Libyan rebels, but not protesters in Bahrain or Yemen.
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    Re: Arab League condemns broad bombing campaign in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeBob View Post
    Why are we involved in another war?! How do the American people benefit?
    Same war. Different bad borders. As long as the region is a mess, their radical base assumes God's enemy must pay. It's very archaic, but so is mass religious zealousy.
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