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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Like what? Please specify what needs to be done in "our own backyard" that can't wait until we stop this guy from slaughtering his own citizens?

    I've thought about it and I was on the fence at first, but now, I stand with coalition. This man must be stopped.
    Why not Europe it's in their region, we need not interfere we are already stretched to thin not to mention constitutional issues that can be brought forth. Interfering in another countries civil war is a very dangerous thing and I believe we have a very good understanding of this. Those who are engaged in the civil war in Libya wish the slaughter to stop then may I suggest that the losing side surrender, this is how wars are won for better or worse.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Why not Europe it's in their region, we need not interfere we are already stretched to thin not to mention constitutional issues that can be brought forth. Interfering in another countries civil war is a very dangerous thing and I believe we have a very good understanding of this. Those who are engaged in the civil war in Libya wish the slaughter to stop then may I suggest that the losing side surrender, this is how wars are won for better or worse.
    It would be better if we weren't involved and I do believe we could have done something different from joining a military coalition in this case. Must we be in every coalition? Europe uses Libyan oil, France is variously invested in Libya. Isn't it about time the U.S. stopped being the world's policeman? We could have given support in terms of supplies and ordnance and had nothing to do with the military aspect. I'm sure we would have eventually been dragged in anyway but it would have been good to set a different precedent.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Libya is in Africa, not Europe.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Libya is in Africa, not Europe.
    I believe we all know this, thanks anyway.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    A few airstrikes won't bring Gaddafi down, he has said he will not go, he will hide behind women and children, he will do anything.
    Revolutionary leaders are among the most difficult to dislodge from power. They typically have unwavering commitment to their revolution. They see themselves as indispensable to the success and continuation of the revolution.

    President Mubarak was not a revolutionary leader. Even as he was an authoritarian ruler, he was an incrementalist. In contrast, the clerical regime in Iran is one example of a revolutionary regime. Col. Gadhafi's is another. Not surprisingly, both regimes have resorted to often massive violence to suppress the legitimate demands of their people. As far as they are concerned, the revolution comes first. If necessary, the people are wholly expendable. That, unfortunately, is the ugly reality of revolutionary leaders and their regimes.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    It would be better if we weren't involved and I do believe we could have done something different from joining a military coalition in this case. Must we be in every coalition? Europe uses Libyan oil, France is variously invested in Libya. Isn't it about time the U.S. stopped being the world's policeman? We could have given support in terms of supplies and ordnance and had nothing to do with the military aspect. I'm sure we would have eventually been dragged in anyway but it would have been good to set a different precedent.
    Absolutely, the U.S. could have just given logistical support, although I believe the European and Arab coalition could easily handle Libya without us. It's that I have this sneaky suspicion that the coalition wants us involved so that if the something goes wrong(like civilian casualties), well the coalition can was again blame the U.S. Anyway I am more apt to support Japan and help out in this great disaster that the Japanese are experiencing. I would rather see our resources be pointed in that direction.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Gaddafi could be taken out if that were made the main goal but it would require inside information on his location.

    Used to be you could go into an underground bunker 20 or 30 feet down sealed in concrete but no more.

    Bunker busters can now penetrate 100 feet of earth and then 20 feet of concrete and kill anything in the bunker with themobaric explosion.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Absolutely, the U.S. could have just given logistical support, although I believe the European and Arab coalition could easily handle Libya without us. It's that I have this sneaky suspicion that the coalition wants us involved so that if the something goes wrong(like civilian casualties), well the coalition can was again blame the U.S. Anyway I am more apt to support Japan and help out in this great disaster that the Japanese are experiencing. I would rather see our resources be pointed in that direction.
    I absolutely agree.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Gaddafi could be taken out if that were made the main goal but it would require inside information on his location.

    Used to be you could go into an underground bunker 20 or 30 feet down sealed in concrete but no more.

    Bunker busters can now penetrate 100 feet of earth and then 20 feet of concrete and kill anything in the bunker with themobaric explosion.
    Well they might have done it. We can hope.

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    Re: Breaking News: 'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on reb

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    'To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on rebels - The Times of India

    We live in very bizarre times. It is impossible to imagine where this situation is Libya will end. A few airstrikes won't bring Gaddafi down, he has said he will not go, he will hide behind women and children, he will do anything. Will the UN alliance do anything.

    We'll either look like fools as we put our weapons to bed and leave Gaddafi to do what he does, or we will be fools and go in to take him down. This is a mess.
    Pay attention to the News (not fox news) the u.s. part will done very soon. We were only there to use our hi-tech war making advantage to pave the way for Nato.

    This is not a mess, we did what we do best. Death from above. We took out key targets and now the rest is up the French.

    Kudos to Obama for being patient, reading the situation brilliantly, and only committing to limited U.S. involvement.

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