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U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

Because the rest of the world could not contain the threat from Khadafi to his people without the US bases in Europe???

Precisely.

Europe was incapable of dealing with the Balkans. A mess in their own back yard. No... they had to protest to get us into that one. So yes, you are correct. The remainder of the world can't get it done without us.

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Because the rest of the world could not contain the threat from Khadafi to his people without the US bases in Europe???

Yeah! That's exactly right.
 
Precisely.

Europe was incapable of dealing with the Balkans. A mess in their own back yard. No... they had to protest to get us into that one. So yes, you are correct. The remainder of the world can't get it done without us.

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They ****ed up things in Somalia, too. we had to go in to cover their retreat.
 
One of Gaddafi Duck's buddies, and a buddy of Obama's racist mentor is pissed off. Seems he has not come to love the "humanitarian bombs" like most Libs have come round. No, he sounds like he's addressing Bush43.

FARRAKHAN: "I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world...Why don't you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can't order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are?

HotAirPundit: "Who The Hell Do You Think You Are?" Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)

Is sounds like Farrakhan is asking for a job to boot. I wish he would have listed his idea of "respected Americans". Too bad, as it would have made for a great campaign commercial come 2011.

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Yes... for that flick it does... I've watched it many times and the last minutes of the then joint chiefs is incredibly funny, as is Dr. Strangelove's battle with himself, and his final line was off the charts hilarious... Mein Fuehrer... I can walk. Now, for my usage it refers to the "humanitarian bombs" were are delivering to Libya. You see, I'm not constrained by old usages.

Dr. Strangelove's battle with himself is similar to the Libs and their new found love of the bomb, and war.

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You have yet to prove that liberals like nuclear warfare or nuclear weapons. And now add to that list war.
 
http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-mainstream-media/Hmmmmmmmmmmm... are we going to hear the leftists call [U]The One [/U]a "warmonger"? [/QUOTE]
if you're going to try and be clever and insult your President, you could at least try to get it right.

it's 'that one'.
 
You have yet to prove that liberals like nuclear warfare or nuclear weapons. And now add to that list war.

LOL... I've explained my usage, you prefer to ignore. That's OK. Perhaps using a larger font will help. Does this help with comprehension, and do I need to repost my clarifications of "Libs learning to love the bomb" again? Please advise.

I only hear condemnation from Louis Farrakhan of NOI fame. I hear defense of "da buhmb" and a hedging of what war means from the Lefties. It is all quite amusing watching the Lib come to love da buhmb and try to hide behind specious use of terminology to claim we are not at war.

We are at war, we are firing bombs in there and the Libs aren't complaining. You see, they have come to love the bomb. It is a humanitarian tool now. ROTFLOL.

I think the Jackass is a fitting representative for the Libs, and they should now add the pretzel. They're all twisted up in their thinking, and have opened a flank as wide and porous as the Maginot Line to peek into their muddled brains. I want to see how they will try to untwist themselves from this massive brain fart of a mess... what's going to happen is the usual... they will keep contradicting themselves and end up with a whole new cable salad type pretzel for the world to see.

Cannot wait until the journOlists lay on Obama's lap and ask to have their belly's scratched.

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Obama looks like he's tuning up his bod for fashion week. The dude should not be following Michelle's dietary advice... before we know it he'll be a size Zero.

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lol... I've explained my usage, you prefer to ignore. That's ok. perhaps using a larger font will help. Does this help with comprehension, and do i need to repost my clarifications of "libs learning to love the bomb" again? please advise.

actually i did not ignore your post you still said


yes... for that flick it does... I've watched it many times and the last minutes of the then joint chiefs is incredibly funny, as is dr. Strangelove's battle with himself, and his final line was off the charts hilarious... Mein fuehrer... I can walk. Now, for my usage it refers to the "humanitarian bombs" were are delivering to libya. You see, i'm not constrained by old usages.

Dr. Strangelove's battle with himself is similar to the libs and their new found love of the bomb, and war.

ok. Now you must give proof that liberals now love war

does this help???
 
Don't argue with him, the man makes a mockery of politics and debate. He lives in his own world right now, he's so confident and sure of himself he won't listen to anyone.
 
LOL... their bombing was an act of war... you do not need a slip of paper to make it so. Their strike was pre-emptive. America is in War No. 3.

And will you admit to the class that casus belli is the justification for war; the selling of it to the public to gain support.

Conservatives really are slow, huh?

The bombing was an ACT OF WAR. We were not in a STATE OF WAR with Japan when they bombed us. Instead of spewing your asinine and inane comments, why don't you actually think of what the difference is between the two?

Here, I'll dumb it down even more for you. Were we at war with Iran during the Iran-Iraq War? No. Yet, we destroyed oil platforms, gunboats and speedboats. They planted mines throughout the Persian Gulf and damaged one of our frigates. Yet we were not in a STATE OF WAR.
 
Don't argue with him, the man makes a mockery of politics and debate. He lives in his own world right now, he's so confident and sure of himself he won't listen to anyone.

Have you read all the posts in this thread before posting, or are you shooting from the hip? I'll trust your honesty, you seem like a decent guy.

And... one further simple question... Are we at war in Libya? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Conservatives really are slow, huh?

The bombing was an ACT OF WAR. We were not in a STATE OF WAR with Japan when they bombed us. Instead of spewing your asinine and inane comments, why don't you actually think of what the difference is between the two?

Here, I'll dumb it down even more for you. Were we at war with Iran during the Iran-Iraq War? No. Yet, we destroyed oil platforms, gunboats and speedboats. They planted mines throughout the Persian Gulf and damaged one of our frigates. Yet we were not in a STATE OF WAR.
You're awfully quiet about casus belli.

Genius, when Japan bombed us, we were at war... and though they didn't manage to hook up with UPS or FedEx to get the papers to us, they were at war when they bombed the **** out of Pearl Harbor and bodies were flying all over the place... like it or not. Now you might have waited for the paper to make it official, those technicalities didn't change the facts. In Libya, we are at war. I hope the Leftists try taking your tact, as it will be beautiful to watch them explain we are not at war... but never mind the bombs folks, those are humanitarian aid.

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We could not say we didn't have a part in it. If you aid and abet a dictator in genocide, do you not bear some responsibility?

That's quite a serious charge. Exactly how did the United States 'aid and abet' Saddam Hussein in genocide?



We don't know if the corrupt government we helped set up there can even stand on its own after our occupation forces are withdrawn that are propping it up, much less what kind of government will be in place after their civil war. I think the ones that didn't think this through were the ones that planned the invasion of a country that was of no threat to us.

It's clear you're now meandering off in another direction entirely. You alleged that an apology was sought by the Iraqi people and now you can't support that claim.

Are you now withdrawing it?
 
The Japanese committed an act of war. What on earth are you talking about??
When the Japanese attacked us, were we in a state of war with them? Absolutely not.
And I can assure you that if another country were to start shooting our planes out of the air in any nation on earth, well, that'd be an act of war as well.
Wow... It's awesome reading comments that are completely ignorant of relevance. Go learn the difference between an act of war and a state of war and how they each apply to international conventions (ie - THE LAWS OF WAR).
 
You have yet to prove that liberals like nuclear warfare or nuclear weapons. And now add to that list war.

The only time a nuclear bomb was used was when a Democrat ordered it. And of course the Democrats also declared both World Wars.

At least when the Republicans get involved in wars it's all about oil. The Left can't even use that excuse.
 
What in God's name are you talking about?

It was a people's revolution, everyone was involved.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Indeed a PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION STARTED by the socialist left and the Internet. Funny this all started as a protest against Capitalism and the Military Industrial Complex....but WHO YOU GONNA CALL ON when the PROTESTING begins to shed blood? The Good old USA and its Mititary Industrial Complex purchased through the doctrine of Capitalism. Do you think that WAR is any different simply because you wish to spin a supposed HUMANITRAIAN sphere of propaganda around it? Its the HYPOCRISY that I am pointing out and the ILLOGICAL EXTREMES that the non critical thinking left will go to in burying themselves simply to prove they know how to use a shovel. It all started from the NET from a place headquartered in NY and funded by the PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT.

I would be the first to agree that this megalomanic should be removed from power, but don't be HYPOCRITIAL in the nature in which ALL DESPOTS must be removed.....there are no PEACEFUL full scale protest movements, i.e., REVOLUTIONS....its VIOLENCE period, Just as we are finding out when push comes to shove. What, did you characters really expect these theolgicial and secular despots alike were going to simply lay down their scepters because of a political movement regardless of the numbers involved? There is NOTHING HUMANE about war.

There is documented evidence that some of these events where planned and executed with the help of certain US GOVERNMENT agencies and with the help of funding by George Soros' "Open Society Foundations".
 
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When the Japanese attacked us, were we in a state of war with them? Absolutely not.

Wow... It's awesome reading comments that are completely ignorant of relevance. Go learn the difference between an act of war and a state of war and how they each apply to international conventions (ie - THE LAWS OF WAR).

ROTFLOL... I guess these folks just fail to understand the technicalities

The Libyan War of 2011
March 19, 2011 | 2333 GMT
Red Alert: The Libya Situation and How Wars Begin

By George Friedman

The Libyan war has now begun. It pits a coalition of European powers plus the United States, a handful of Arab states and rebels in Libya against the Libyan government. The long-term goal, unspoken but well understood, is regime change — displacing the government of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and replacing it with a new regime built around the rebels.

Read more: The Libyan War of 2011 | STRATFOR
 
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I'ma just gonna say one thing here.

This is a brick wall but here goes anyway.

Tomahawk missiles and air strikes < Full fledged invasion and regime change. 5000 American deaths. 32 500 American wounded.

Just saying.
 
This is Rummy selling him the WMD to do it.

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That's two people shaking hands!!! How is that aiding and abetting genocide?

Do Leftists seriously believe that when world leaders greet each other they share each other's philosophies?

I suppose you felt Richard Nixon was a Communist and Maoist because he was similarly greeted on his visit to China. And you'll never believe who FD Roosevelt was pictured beside in Yalta!

You guys can be comical!
 
Err, no. By your lofty logic, when Pearl Harbor was bombed, America was at war with Japan. We weren't at war with Japan on December 7, 1941. We were at war with Japan on December 8, 1941.

Learn what the terms state of war means in context of numerous international conventions. Aggression is not always war. It is casus belli for war.

Dude, what you are saying is just plain wrong. War is nothing more than armed hostilities between two distinct groups. The Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor was war. Had both sides left it at that the war would have been over. People do not like to use a term as strong as war in such cases, but the term is still correct.

Were we at war with Iran during the Iran-Iraq War?

Yes.
 
I'ma just gonna say one thing here.

This is a brick wall but here goes anyway.

Tomahawk missiles and air strikes < Full fledged invasion and regime change. 5000 American deaths. 32 500 American wounded.

Just saying.

The Left has really moderated their quagmire predictions.

Prior to the invasion of Iraq they were predicting 250,000 American deaths.
 
The Left has really moderated their quagmire predictions.

Prior to the invasion of Iraq they were predicting 250,000 American deaths.

Fail. Just Fail.

Do you ever get tired of generalizations.

Nope I'd say not.

You seem to relish in them quite often.
 
I'ma just gonna say one thing here.

This is a brick wall but here goes anyway.

Tomahawk missiles and air strikes < Full fledged invasion and regime change. 5000 American deaths. 32 500 American wounded.

Just saying.

Again, this fight is only about 16 hours old. It can turn into an incredible victory, becoming the textbook version of how to conduct these kinds of interventionist operations, or it can turn into a real **** storm. The battlefield is still very fluid and it's anyone's ball game, at this point. There are a hundred things that can go right and a thousand things that can go wrong.

So, don't start sucking each other's dicks and bashing the United States, just yet.
 
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