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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    My son just left Iraq. 35,000 combat ready troops are still there to protect the new corrupt government we helped establish there.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My son just left Iraq. 35,000 combat ready troops are still there to protect the new corrupt government we helped establish there.
    The US has troops in Germany as well as many other areas of the world but that does not mean that Germany, or Iraq, is "occupied". Naturally, you are attempting to put as much negative spin on the situation as possible, and that is to be expected from your politics, but it is still more honest to use the correct terms.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    Bush went to the UN and to congress about Iraq.
    But unlike with Libya, they never gave their vote of approval. And who remains the lone foreign military force in Iraq today?
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The US has troops in Germany as well as many other areas of the world but that does not mean that Germany, or Iraq, is "occupied". Naturally, you are attempting to put as much negative spin on the situation as possible, and that is to be expected from your politics, but it is still more honest to use the correct terms.
    Germany's government can stand against its own people without military support. Iraq's cannot. And our invasion and occupation of Germany was due to a country attacking its neighbors. This was not the case with Iraq. They haven't had that capability since the Persian Gulf War.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya - The Washington Post

    The U.S. military dramatically stepped up its assault on Libyan government ground forces over the weekend, launching its first missions with AC-130 flying gunships and A-10 attack aircraft designed to strike enemy ground troops and supply convoys.
    Its not only Tomahawks....US involvement will get more pronounced and the consequences of these trends will be more treacherous

    Lord! What a big mess

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya - The Washington Post



    Its not only Tomahawks....US involvement will get more pronounced and the consequences of these trends will be more treacherous

    Lord! What a big mess
    Yep, instead of just protecting civilians, we're just full-on providing close air support for the rebels. Fkin typical.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Germany's government can stand against its own people without military support. Iraq's cannot. And our invasion and occupation of Germany was due to a country attacking its neighbors. This was not the case with Iraq. They haven't had that capability since the Persian Gulf War.
    Then who is it who is attacking the government of Iraq and murdering the Iraqi people?

    Is it the same ones who were killing them before, at bus stops, police stations, etc.?

    Do you think Germany needs the help of US troops moreso than the people of Iraq?

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya
    nicely noticed, the use of low flying fighters is a major ESCALATION

    it's pretty hard to argue that obama's interpretation of whatever it is mission he's invented for himself and gotten us all into is anything less than plastic and rubbery allowing him and his coalition partners to do---or NOT DO---just about anything in the short term they want

    except NATION BUILDING, there's bottom line NO AVOIDING that---if gadaffi goes, that is

    and if gadaffi doesn't go american prestige will be in the crapper at a time when the entire region, profound in its geopolitically pivotal position, is falling apart

    and if gadaffi doesn't go obama will be severely damaged as his as-of-monday "clarification" of what the heck we're doing over there is all about the protection of civilian life

    which can't possibly be accomplished with that mad murderer remaining in tripoli

    obama has not even STARTED to think this thru

    and he and we are all STUCK THERE

    no spin, wynn

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    But unlike with Libya, they never gave their vote of approval. And who remains the lone foreign military force in Iraq today?
    I think their vote of approval melted away when they begged NATO to take over.

    Of course the US has the largest number of foreign military forces in Iraq.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    The Washington Post

    U.S. deploys low-flying attack planes in Libya The U.S. military dramatically stepped up its assault on Libyan government ground forces over the weekend, launching its first missions with AC-130 flying gunships and A-10 attack aircraft designed to strike enemy ground troops and supply convoys.


    Well it's about time. A-10's and AC-130's are just the weapons systems for this kind of conflict. The AC-130 is an awsome aircraft. Now, when do the carriers show up?

    If you're going to jump in then you have to go in to prevail. Obviously more air power is needed for the rebels to resume the offensive and capture Tripoli.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Its not only Tomahawks....US involvement will get more pronounced and the consequences of these trends will be more treacherous

    Lord! What a big mess
    There are definately reasons to believe this is getting out of control. I'm counting on the President and his advisors to be working through the problems and find solutions to defeat Gaddafi's butchers. IMO we should be chasing his a** around the desert.

    If Gaddafi remains in power we have failed and this will be for nothing. I hope the President understands that.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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