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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Everyone was informed as to what would be involved in establishing a no-fly zone. I am not saying it was the right decision for NATO to take, but you can't claim anyone, that has been paying attention, didn't know what it would involve. If Congress is opposed to our support in the NATO action, I think they should defund it.
    It's not a NATO action as far I could understand.

    Brussels, 21 March - The US administration's hopes to steer NATO into taking responsibility for the military aggression against Libya ...

    ...Given that NATO decisions must be taken unanimously, the fact that Germany and Turkey, as non-permanent members of the Security Council had not voted in favour of resolution 1973 authorizing the imposition of a no-fly zone on Libya

    ...France, which had taken the lead in attacking Libya and quite bluntly throws its military weight into the camp of the anti-government militias, refuses to continue its campaign against the North African country under a NATO umbrella instead of under its own supreme command.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    Oh, you mean the mandatory health care thing? Yea, that would definitely require a super majority in congress, because certainly the super majority of Americans don't support it. Funny how the representatives are supposed to represent us, yet their votes don't. Who the hell are they voting on behalf of?
    That was just one of his many accomplishments, but this isn't the thread for a disscusion of Obama's accomplishments. There are many threads related to that. I will be happy to discuss it with you in one of those threads if you wish. Just PM the link to me when you have posted.

    Are you opposed to the NATO mission to create a no fly zone over Libya?
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It's not a NATO action as far I could understand.
    UN approves no-fly zone over Libya

    "UNITED NATIONS -- Moving swiftly in response to a request by Arab nations, the U.N. Security Council on Thursday paved the way for international air strikes against Moammar Gadhafi's forces, voting to authorize military action to protect civilians and impose a no-fly zone over Libya.

    The council acted five days after the Arab League urged the U.N.'s most powerful body to try to halt Gadhafi's advancing military and reverse the realities on the ground, where rebels and their civilian supporters are in danger of being crushed by pro-government forces using rockets, artillery, tanks and warplanes.

    The vote was 10-0 with five countries abstaining including Russia and China, which have veto power in the council, along with India, Germany and Brazil. Russia and China expressed concern about the United Nations and other outside powers using force against Gadhafi, and Germany expressed fear that military action would lead to more casualties."
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    with hamlet in the white house here's what happens:

    the uk insists gaddafi is a legitimate target, but robt gates says no

    obama wants to "cede control to nato," but france objects

    turkey says the alliance has already gone too far

    "many" members feel no need for a no fly zone

    italy threatens to withdraw use of its airbases

    the arab league is "suspicious"

    germany is "balking"

    china and brazil abstained

    russia says we're targeting civilians and makes comparisons to THE CRUSADES

    "obama has not directly discussed the military action with david cameron," a STUNNING admission

    "obama made it clear he wants no part of any leadership role"

    he's "already criticized for continuing his tour of latin america"

    the "GREAT VACILLATOR," an appellation rarely heard since smiling jimmy carter so fully embodied it

    congress is critical, obama says he consulted em, they say no

    their names include JERROLD NADLER, BARBARA LEE, MIKE CAPUANO, ROSCOE BARTLETT---are you familiar with their progressive dispositions?

    everyone's talking about MISSION CREEP

    a "heated nato meeting yesterday failed to resolve" any of these dilemnas

    bottom line---the rebels a few weeks ago were just miles outside tripoli

    if ACTION were called for, THEN was the TIME

    but obama, his whole function suiting with forms to his conceit, DITHERS

    Libya: Obama's 'coalition of the unwilling' asks does the West have the right to kill Gaddafi? | Mail Online

    this one, too, aint goin away, folks

    strap in, it's gonna be quite a ride

    meanwhile, the entire middle east is watching

    U.S. Says Libyan Campaign to Ease as No-Fly Zone Secured - Bloomberg
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    update, 3:52 pm, eastern: we're back to REGIME CHANGE

    White House: Helping install 'a democratic system' is goal in Libya - TheHill.com

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I personally don't support the intervention, but really the rationale for getting involved in Libya is a lot more sound than the rationale for invading Iraq.
    Not even close. I'm going to use this as a one-stop-shopping argument over and over:

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    1. You folks complained Bush 41 didn't go all the way to Baghdad. He should have but the UN Res didn't permit it. What happened? Saddam cleansed those who tried to overthrow him. Where were you Libs then?

    2. Clinton, the Dem leadership warned about Saddam and Clinton sent Cohen around to prepare the nation for war. Clinton preferred to watch the Inspectors get their asses kicked out.

    3. Blix testified about Saddam's lack of cooperation, the fact they found weaponized WMD when he said they hadn't any, and the unbelievability of Saddam.

    4. David Kay reported to the Senate ASC that the state was so degraded the likelihood of a terrorist getting WMD in Iraq was a real possibility, if it didn't happen already.

    5. Saddam was going to reconstitute his weapons program.

    6. Learn the lessons of history. Had Churchill been listened to in the early 30's WWII may have been averted. We know not what Bush43 averted, but we do know Saddam isn't a threat and they don't have WMD.

    7. Two benefits from that war were: the finding and ending of nuke blackmarket and getting all of Gaddafi's nuke technology.

    Now, did you want to say something about your Lib Warmonger?

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    I suspect that's why there aren't crazy protesters out there.
    I'll tell you why. Obama's a Lib. It's that simple. If this were Bush or Reagan... it would be worldwide... right now.

    But I think after the UN voted to enforce an NFZ, then Congress should have at least VOTED on a declaration of war, as the imposition of an NFZ is essentially an act of war. Where the **** is Congress in all this? At least we should've gotten a reading up or down.
    I'm not going to disagree, and it should have been done weeks ago when the rebels were making progress.

    With the current multiple explanation scheme by King Hussein Obama, we should be in a whole bunch of places putting down thugs. For a guy that shot his mouth off during the election about his superior judgment and stupid wars etc... he's really looking the hypocrite at the moment.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    update, 3:52 pm, eastern: we're back to REGIME CHANGE

    White House: Helping install 'a democratic system' is goal in Libya - TheHill.com
    He makes John Kerry look stable.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    We know the American religious far right views diplomacy as weakness. Whether or not their Islamic cousins do so or not is less certain.
    Unless it's diplomacy from a position of strength.

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