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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Then take it up with 0bama, France, Italy etc. as well. They disagree with you. So do I.



    According to 0bama the end game is regime change in Libya.

    The US has the assets and money to destroy Gaddafi's ground forces and air defense. It wouldn't take long.

    You will find lots of posts where I criticize 0bama for wasting trillions of tax dollars and deficit spending. Two separate issues. Nice try though.

    simply went in with guns ablazin'? Nobody ever suggested such a thing.
    1) Asserting the no-fly zone will cost the US $100M per week... and its totally elective spending. Here is a place we don't need to spend the money. While I have no problem with you arguing we need to spend money on guns, but the cost to you is that you have lost all credibility in arguing that balancing the budget is imperative, as clearly with you, it is not.

    2) The "it will be over quick" theory worked really well in Iraq, now didn't it. Cheney should have read his 1992 diary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT7Ik_X1HU0
    (still looking for his Meet the Press assertion that it would be over in a matter of weeks and we would be greeted as liberators). Nothing worse than American arrogance thinking we can pretty much do what we want militarily.. you would think Iraq and Afghanistan would refute that fantasy (it certainly has for Arab resistance).

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    this war is retarded. first of all if we are wanting a better economy thenn yes first step first we need to cut prices. So oil is an issue, but there is this weird place called alaska which has enough oil for america to last 100 years. then if we say we are fighting this for the sake of the 2 british ships that were attacked then we are bigger idiots than ever. i love britain it is my favorite country but if britain is attacked then britain should be the one defending itself and fighting a war not the usa.

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    i completely agree with you rigg

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Yes a very limited one currently but canescalate on new Levels with the slightest mistakes.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He's assisting the UN forces humanitarian effort in protecting civilians, not making war.
    ahhh the un.......providing peace through militaristic means

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    how is it very limited its 112 rockets onto libya . that is not limited all the usa can do now is pray that the libyan presidant does not have nuclear warfare missiles because he is just crazy enough to use that stuff

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by kwanawk View Post
    how is it very limited its 112 rockets onto libya . that is not limited all the usa can do now is pray that the libyan presidant does not have nuclear warfare missiles because he is just crazy enough to use that stuff
    He doesn't have nuclear weapons, chicken little. He only has mustard gas. While that is definitely bad stuff, it's nothing compared to a 200kt warhead.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Could have fooled me, since he knew to go about this the right way, getting approval from the UN and providing a supporting role so as not to continue to propagate the Arab view of the US as the great Satan, which only fuels creation of more terrorists and strenghens hardliner's case against the US.
    I'm still waiting to hear about the support from Congress. Where's the Declaration of War?
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm still waiting to hear about the support from Congress. Where's the Declaration of War?
    I want to know why he didn't follow the Farrakhan/Obama Doctrine and speak with this despot without preconditions before air raiding cities and killing civilians?

    With this action, certainly no unique situation in the world where despots rule...my questions is where next? It is hilarious to visit the Lib DG's, and watch the folks there suffering from Pretzilitis Politicus. Now on to the show:

    From President "Words, Just Words"

    "What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war....What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income." B-O 2 October 2002
    I will offer a clear contrast as somebody who never supported this war. I don’t want to just end the war, but I want to end the mindset that got us into war in the first place.
    Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Los Angeles before Super Tuesday Jan 31, 2008
    Can we make an argument that this was a conceptually flawed mission, from the start? We need better judgment when we decide to send our young men and women into war, that we are making absolutely certain that it is because there is an imminent threat, that American interests are going to be protected...
    The terrorist threat is real. And precisely because it’s real--and we’ve got finite resources. We don’t have the capacity to just send our troops in anywhere we decide, without good intelligence, without a clear rationale. That’s the kind of leadership that we need from the next president of the US. That’s what I intend to provide.
    Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Los Angeles before Super Tuesday Jan 31, 2008
    As President, I will not assert a constitutional authority to deploy troops in a manner contrary to an express limit imposed by Congress and adopted into law.
    Source: Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power Dec 20, 2007
    Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. The world, and the Iraqi people would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
    Source: In His Own Words, edited by Lisa Rogak, p.143 Mar 27, 2007
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