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2) The "it will be over quick" theory worked really well in Iraq, now didn't it. Cheney should have read his 1992 diary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT7Ik_X1HU0
(still looking for his Meet the Press assertion that it would be over in a matter of weeks and we would be greeted as liberators). Nothing worse than American arrogance thinking we can pretty much do what we want militarily.. you would think Iraq and Afghanistan would refute that fantasy (it certainly has for Arab resistance).
this war is retarded. first of all if we are wanting a better economy thenn yes first step first we need to cut prices. So oil is an issue, but there is this weird place called alaska which has enough oil for america to last 100 years. then if we say we are fighting this for the sake of the 2 british ships that were attacked then we are bigger idiots than ever. i love britain it is my favorite country but if britain is attacked then britain should be the one defending itself and fighting a war not the usa.
i completely agree with you rigg
Yes a very limited one currently but canescalate on new Levels with the slightest mistakes.
how is it very limited its 112 rockets onto libya . that is not limited all the usa can do now is pray that the libyan presidant does not have nuclear warfare missiles because he is just crazy enough to use that stuff
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
With this action, certainly no unique situation in the world where despots rule...my questions is where next? It is hilarious to visit the Lib DG's, and watch the folks there suffering from Pretzilitis Politicus. Now on to the show:
From President "Words, Just Words"
"What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war....What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income." B-O 2 October 2002I will offer a clear contrast as somebody who never supported this war. I don’t want to just end the war, but I want to end the mindset that got us into war in the first place.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Los Angeles before Super Tuesday Jan 31, 2008Can we make an argument that this was a conceptually flawed mission, from the start? We need better judgment when we decide to send our young men and women into war, that we are making absolutely certain that it is because there is an imminent threat, that American interests are going to be protected...The terrorist threat is real. And precisely because it’s real--and we’ve got finite resources. We don’t have the capacity to just send our troops in anywhere we decide, without good intelligence, without a clear rationale. That’s the kind of leadership that we need from the next president of the US. That’s what I intend to provide.
Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Los Angeles before Super Tuesday Jan 31, 2008As President, I will not assert a constitutional authority to deploy troops in a manner contrary to an express limit imposed by Congress and adopted into law.
Source: Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power Dec 20, 2007.Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. The world, and the Iraqi people would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
Source: In His Own Words, edited by Lisa Rogak, p.143 Mar 27, 2007
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