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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, none of that. It's worst, he's a bumbling idiot.
    Could have fooled me, since he knew to go about this the right way, getting approval from the UN and providing a supporting role so as not to continue to propagate the Arab view of the US as the great Satan, which only fuels creation of more terrorists and strenghens hardliner's case against the US.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    I've noticed you like to talk about the last ten years much more than you would face the tremendous cognitive dissonance the current situation must cause for you.

    Welcome to THIS ten years!

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't need a link to state the obvious. Which far right christians were opposed to our killing Muslims? Can you name any?
    You and your friend made claims you cannot support. There's no need for further comment.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't need a link to state the obvious. Which far right christians were opposed to our killing Muslims? Can you name any?
    I can't speak for "far right" christians but every catholic priest I've ever spoken to about this oppose all wars no matter what their intended purpose.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    "Being Islamophobic means being bigoted against Muslims, and there is definitely something wrong with that".

    Apparently you do not understand what phobia means. Look it up and then comment.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Could have fooled me, since he knew to go about this the right way, getting approval from the UN and providing a supporting role so as not to continue to propagate the Arab view of the US as the great Satan, which only fuels creation of more terrorists and strenghens hardliner's case against the US.
    And nevermind the thousands of Libyans that have been killed while 0bama sat on his hands waiting for political cover from the UN.

    We still do not have a defined mission and 0bama today stated again that the US policy is that of regime change in Libya. He made no mention of how that was going to be accomplished.

    BTW, it's time you brushed up on UN Resolution 1441.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you didn't understand the original post, why did you comment on it?

    Islamists are those who would not hesitate to promote Islam through terrorism and who deny the rights of freedom of religion to others.
    Hmm, the various definitions of Islamism and don't appear to have anything to do with terrorism or denying rights and freedom of religion to others. . .

    "the belief that Islam should guide social and political as well as personal life",[9]
    "the [Islamic] ideology that guides society as a whole and that [teaches] law must be in conformity with the Islamic sharia",[10]
    an Islamic "movement that seeks cultural differentiation from the West and reconnection with the pre-colonial symbolic universe",[11]
    "the organised political trend, owing its modern origin to the founding of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in 1928, that seeks to solve modern political problems by reference to Muslim texts",[12]
    "the whole body of thought which seeks to invest society with Islam which may be integrationist, but may also be traditionalist, reform-minded or even revolutionary",[12]
    "the active assertion and promotion of beliefs, prescriptions, laws or policies that are held to be Islamic in character,"[4]
    a movement of "Muslims who draw upon the belief, symbols, and language of Islam to inspire, shape, and animate political activity;" which may contain moderate, tolerant, peaceful activists, and/or those who "preach intolerance and espouse violence."[13]
    a term "used by outsiders to denote a strand of activity which they think justifies their misconception of Islam as something rigid and immobile, a mere tribal affiliation."[8][14]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You know of them, right?
    What I know is that your "defintion" of Islamist appears inconsistent with that of the cited articles.

    So where is your source that Islamism means terrorism? Please cite.

    FYI, Bill O'Reilly is generally not considered an authoritative source.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Could have fooled me, since he knew to go about this the right way, getting approval from the UN and providing a supporting role so as not to continue to propagate the Arab view of the US as the great Satan, which only fuels creation of more terrorists and strenghens hardliner's case against the US.
    Approval from the UN is certainly not required. Approval from Congress, for a lengthy engagement, is more highly desirable. Since we don't plan to have significant assets in play for long, Congressional approval probably wasn't needed. Since we aren't leading the effort, others countries, France, Britain and especially participation by Arab countries, a UN resolution makes perfect sense and was well done.

    We'll see if the coalition can hold together.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "Being Islamophobic means being bigoted against Muslims, and there is definitely something wrong with that".

    Apparently you do not understand what phobia means. Look it up and then comment.
    Sure. . .

    A phobia (from the Greek: φόβος,phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear") is an irrational, intense and persistent fear of certain situations, activities, things, animals, or people.

    Phobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So when you were asking "What's wrong with being Islamophobic?" you apparently meant "what's wrong with having an an irrational, intense and persistent fear of Muslims."

    Thanks for allowing me to clarify that

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Approval from the UN is certainly not required. Approval from Congress, for a lengthy engagement, is more highly desirable. Since we don't plan to have significant assets in play for long, Congressional approval probably wasn't needed. Since we aren't leading the effort, others countries, France, Britain and especially participation by Arab countries, a UN resolution makes perfect sense and was well done.

    We'll see if the coalition can hold together.
    Yeah... about that, its been limited to Qatari fighters and Egypt arming Libyan rebs
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