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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    Wait, I thought the Arab League was all about this.



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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    So Kucinich was being honest, big whoop
    you think this story is about kucinich?

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We supplied weapons and training to the elements of the Mujahadeen that became the Northern Alliance. We never helped/created/or whatever other term you wanna use, the Taliban.
    The Taliban did not exist during that time period of course, niether did the Northern Alliance. But as the majority of the Mujahadeen were pashtun, and the Pashtun's make up theTaliban, it would be a safe bet to say that US aid went to the Pashtun Mujahadeen, and as such flowed to the Taliban when they were created as a group. When the Northern Alliance was formed as an official group, fighting against the Taliban they received their primary support from Russia and Iran.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Good for you. That's great. My sarcasm must not apply to you, eh?
    My lack of sarcasm did apply to you however. I do get to point out when people are using that kind of over the top stupidity to try (and fail) to make a point.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...re_af/af_libya

    Cue the well-worn chorus: "Oh noes! It is going to be a QUAGMIRE! Teh new Viet-NAM!!"

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Taliban did not exist during that time period of course, niether did the Northern Alliance. But as the majority of the Mujahadeen were pashtun, and the Pashtun's make up theTaliban, it would be a safe bet to say that US aid went to the Pashtun Mujahadeen, and as such flowed to the Taliban when they were created as a group. When the Northern Alliance was formed as an official group, fighting against the Taliban they received their primary support from Russia and Iran.
    *sigh*--We chose to send all the money, training and weapons to the forces commanded by Shah Massoud. Those were forces eventually became known as The Northern Alliance and were commanded by, you guessed it, Shah Massoud. At no time did we fund the twisted bastards that came to makeup the Taliban. Let's not much up this thread with revisionist history, anymore than we have to, please. Thanks!

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    My lack of sarcasm did apply to you however. I do get to point out when people are using that kind of over the top stupidity to try (and fail) to make a point.
    Good for you. You wanna discuss the topic, or just call me stupid?

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I will take dishonest, irrelevant comparisons for 1000, Alex.
    Cool, 'cuz it is a large category and saw a lot of use in this thread early on.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    *sigh*--We chose to send all the money, training and weapons to the forces commanded by Shah Massoud. Those were forces eventually became known as The Northern Alliance and were commanded by, you guessed it, Shah Massoud. At no time did we fund the twisted bastards that came to makeup the Taliban. Let's not much up this thread with revisionist history, anymore than we have to, please. Thanks!
    according to this you are wrong
    The United States provided Massoud with close to no support. Part of the reason was that it permitted its funding and arms distribution to be administered by Pakistan, which favored rival mujahideen leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. In an interview Massoud expressed: "We thought the CIA knew everything. But they didn't. They supported some bad people [meaning Hekmatyar]." Primary advocates for supporting Massoud instead were State Department's Edmund McWilliams and Peter Tomsen, who were on the ground in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Others included two Heritage Foundation foreign policy analysts, Michael Johns and James A. Phillips, both of whom championed Massoud as the Afghan resistance leader most worthy of U.S. support under the Reagan Doctrine.[20][21]

    Still, the Soviet army and the Afghan communist army were mainly defeated by Massoud and his mujahideen in numerous small engagements between 1984 and 1988. In 1989, after labeling the Soviet Union's military engagement in Afghanistan "a bleeding wound", Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev began a withdrawal of Soviet troops from the nation. On February 15, 1989, in what was depicted as an improbable victory for the mujahideen, the last Soviet soldier left the nation.
    Ahmad Shah Massoud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Well, using wiki as a source, where anyone can post anything, is kinda, neh, whatever.

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