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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is a war. No doubt. It is a perfectly legitimate war by the rules of Just War. Humanitarian Intervention.
    Stopping a moron who lost a war from terrorizing his citizens, using WMD on them, and protecting others from WMD finding its way to terrorists was also humanitarian in ways that dwarf this, but it didn't register with the Rote Lib Faktion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The UN has authorized and enforced the no-fly zone, I don't see a problem with the US participating.

    If ground troops go, I'd oppose that.
    We don't need the stinking corrupt UN, The Kerry/Lib Doctrine to authorize our use of force.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    It's not war. There have been no formal declarations of war. They are safeguarding the interests of the civilians of Libya. Again, it's not war.
    Hm, I respect the desire of Americans to help but what about sovereignty? Why not leave the Libyans deal with their own internal affairs?
    The Vietnam war was undeclared too. So, was it a war or not?

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I wanted to highlight this for all of you who feel UN approval is so damn necessary. Seeking the fig leaf of UN approval had significant costs. It was not necessary.
    Death squads.... Do they have socialised healthcare in Libya?
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    It's not war. There have been no formal declarations of war. They are safeguarding the interests of the civilians of Libya. Again, it's not war.
    I don't care who you are, when a country's military starts bombing another country's military that's war by definition. Calling it anything else is just propaganda.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post



    Hmmmmmmmmmmm... are we going to hear the leftists call The One a "warmonger"?

    Protest with Hitler signs?

    No War for Oil?

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    It's the eighth anniversary of Bush's invasion of Iraq, now there is the real warmonger. He needlessly got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life with his stupidity.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I wanted to highlight this for all of you who feel UN approval is so damn necessary. Seeking the fig leaf of UN approval had significant costs. It was not necessary.
    The guy who everyone is after was on the UN HRC! The corrppt UN has no credibility whatsoever and the world's democracies need their permission to save lives?

    This is what happens when the free world has no leadership, and it makes for very dangerous times.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I don't care who you are, when a country's military starts bombing another country's military that's war by definition. Calling it anything else is just propaganda.
    Yes, but what matters is if everyone who could do something about it will let you do it, or if they're going to have a problem. It's war, but it's war everyone who matters is ok with.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Stopping a moron who lost a war from terrorizing his citizens, using WMD on them, and protecting others from WMD finding its way to terrorists was also humanitarian in ways that dwarf this, but it didn't register with the Rote Lib Faktion.
    I will never, ever forgive the ****ing immoral, decayed left for so venomously opposing Bush and the Iraq War, another humanitarian intervention, as you point out. The left are morally decrepit, violating their "principles" to oppose a political opponent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm, I respect the desire of Americans to help but what about sovereignty? Why not leave the Libyans deal with their own internal affairs?
    The Vietnam war was undeclared too. So, was it a war or not?
    Gaddafi has no legitimate claim to sovereignty, any longer. Therefor, we do not violate sovereignty by providing military assistance to the rebels, who have setup their own political council, recognized by France as the legitimate authority. They in fact invited us.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's the eighth anniversary of Bush's invasion of Iraq, now there is the real warmonger. He needlessly got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life with his stupidity.
    Nonsense, he freed the Iraqis from a dictator much worse than Gaddafi. It is the most moral war we have fought since WW II. (edit: actually, I think a case could be made for Korea filling that honor).
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's the eighth anniversary of Bush's invasion of Iraq, now there is the real warmonger. He needlessly got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life with his stupidity.
    1. You folks complained Bush 41 didn't go all the way to Baghdad. He should have but the UN Res didn't permit it. What happened? Saddam cleansed those who tried to overthrow him. Where were you Libs then?

    2. Clinton, the Dem leadership warned about Saddam and Clinton sent Cohen around to prepare the nation for war. Clinton preferred to watch the Inspectors get their asses kicked out.

    3. Blix testified about Saddam's lack of cooperation, the fact they found weaponized WMD when he said they hadn't any, and the unbelievability of Saddam.

    4. David Kay reported to the Senate ASC that the state was so degraded the likelihood of a terrorist getting WMD in Iraq was a real possibility, if it didn't happen already.

    5. Saddam was going to reconstitute his weapons program.

    6. Learn the lessons of history. Had Churchill been listened to in the early 30's WWII may have been averted. We know not what Bush43 averted, but we do know Saddam isn't a threat and they don't have WMD.

    7. Two benefits from that war were: the finding and ending of nuke blackmarket and getting all of Gaddafi's nuke technology.

    Now, did you want to say something about your Lib Warmonger?

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I will never, ever forgive the ****ing immoral, decayed left for so venomously opposing Bush and the Iraq War, another humanitarian intervention, as you point out. The left are morally decrepit, violating their "principles" to oppose a political opponent.
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    Humanitarian intervention? It cost us a trillion dollars and thousands of lives. We replaced one corrupt regime with one just as corrupt and trained their army to control their civilians. Not only that we ended up killing thousands of innocent civilians in the process. Iraq was a complete waste of lives and resources. It never was never an humanitarian mission. One would have to be a total fool to believe that. You don't bomb power plants, bridges and other infrastructure in a humanitarian mission.
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