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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Wars and military actions, in general are done for national interests, not because people like to be good guys.
    It is in our national interests to see democracy spread through the Middle East and North Africa (and sub-Saharan Africa).

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is in our national interests to see democracy spread through the Middle East and North Africa (and sub-Saharan Africa).
    It's more in our interest to have pro-U.S. nations, democracy or not.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I do wish Deutschland would wake up from its 65 year slumber and start kicking some ass again. The Teutonic Knights were always ones to put a good "Oh, ****!" into their enemy.
    More like 600 years.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Wars and military actions, in general are done for national interests, not because people like to be good guys.
    Generally, I think there is much truth to that, but I think it is also possible that sometimes we do act for the right reasons. Libya is no huge oil producer, they have a little over 3% of the world's known oil reserves, so I don't think oil is a big motivator in this instance.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is in our national interests to see democracy spread through the Middle East and North Africa (and sub-Saharan Africa).
    Yes, that is much preferable to democracy enforced by military occupation.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Generally, I think there is much truth to that, but I think it is also possible that sometimes we do act for the right reasons. Libya is no huge oil producer, they have a little over 3% of the world's known oil reserves, so I don't think oil is a big motivator in this instance.
    Also, if they become a great friend to the U.S. (like Saudi Arabia), it would allow us much greater power projection over Africa and the Middle East.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Also, if they become a great friend to the U.S. (like Saudi Arabia), it would allow us much greater power projection over Africa and the Middle East.
    Are we somehow lacking the ability to do so now?

    And are you seriously suggesting we can make Ghaddafi a reliable friend? I really do think your avatar fits you.

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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Are we somehow lacking the ability to do so now?
    Consistently, I'd say we're probably not in the position, but I'm not really all that up to date on U.S./African-Middle East relations.

    Having more friends, gives us the ability to project more power over an area.

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    And are you seriously suggesting we can make Ghaddafi a reliable friend? I really do think your avatar fits you.
    That's not what I said.
    From a public relations stand point, supporting Ghaddafi would be bad for us.
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    Re: U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Are we somehow lacking the ability to do so now?

    And are you seriously suggesting we can make Ghaddafi a reliable friend? I really do think your avatar fits you.
    i don't think he was suggesting that.
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