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Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

Is this an problem for the liberals?
"This is a problem. Judge Maryann Sumi should have recused herself entirely from the Wisconsin battle due to her inability to be neutral in this case. You see, Maryann Sumi has a clear conflict of interest. Her son is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council. Both the SEIU and the AFL-CIO have members who are public-sector employees in Wisconsin. In fact, as a federation, the AFL-CIO can boast of several member-unions that represent public-sector employees. Maryann Sumi is hardly an unbiased judge in the matter."

"On Friday, unions scored a temporary victory to maintain their ability to collect union dues from Wisconsin public employees when Judge Maryann Sumi (the same judge who refused to order striking teachers back to work in February) issued a Temporary Restraining Order preventing the implementation of Wisconsin’s new law governing public-sector unions."


Conflict of interest. Yes, there is.
 
Why do you say that?


What evidence do you have that he's a puppet?

We know that's the case with the Gov -- (see phone call w/ fake Koch brother) -- we know who pulls his strings. But if you're going to accuse the judge, better have something to back it up.

I am going to ask a specific which I know you probably will ignore, as most flame throwers do, but what exactly in that fake phone call was damning to Walker?


j-mac
 
Is this an problem for the liberals?
"This is a problem. Judge Maryann Sumi should have recused herself entirely from the Wisconsin battle due to her inability to be neutral in this case. You see, Maryann Sumi has a clear conflict of interest. Her son is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council. Both the SEIU and the AFL-CIO have members who are public-sector employees in Wisconsin. In fact, as a federation, the AFL-CIO can boast of several member-unions that represent public-sector employees. Maryann Sumi is hardly an unbiased judge in the matter."

"On Friday, unions scored a temporary victory to maintain their ability to collect union dues from Wisconsin public employees when Judge Maryann Sumi (the same judge who refused to order striking teachers back to work in February) issued a Temporary Restraining Order preventing the implementation of Wisconsin’s new law governing public-sector unions."


Conflict of interest. Yes, there is.

let's examine real conflict of interest:
The Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision in Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission, 130 S. Ct. 876 (2010), has had a dramatic impact, overturning prior Court precedent, ending restrictions on corporate and union political spending that had been in place since 1947, and fueling a surge in secret and independent spending in the 2010 elections. Outside groups spent more than $296 million on the 2010 Congressional midterms – a 330 percent increase over 2006 – with more than $135 million of that coming from undisclosed donors¸ according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Since that decision, information has come to light that raises serious questions about the impartiality of Justices Thomas and Scalia in the Citizens United case. It appears both justices have participated in political strategy sessions, perhaps while the case was pending, with corporate leaders whose political aims were advanced by the decision. With respect to Justice Thomas, there may also be an undisclosed financial conflict of interest due to his wife’s role as CEO of Liberty Central, a 501(c)(4) organization that stood to benefit from the decision and played an active role in the 2010 elections. ...
Letter to the Department of Justice re: Conflicts of Interest in the Citizens United case - Common Cause


allow me to speculate that you see no problem with scalia and thomas sleeping with the parties at interest while you do have a problem with a judge whose son formerly worked for a union

the hypocrisy would be laughable, if the importance were not so serious
 
let's examine real conflict of interest:

Letter to the Department of Justice re: Conflicts of Interest in the Citizens United case - Common Cause


allow me to speculate that you see no problem with scalia and thomas sleeping with the parties at interest while you do have a problem with a judge whose son formerly worked for a union

the hypocrisy would be laughable, if the importance were not so serious

Exactly and a perfect point to make. The connection between husband and wife is far more important than that of an adult son and his mother.
 
I don't think either case is a conflict of interest. We should certainly be concerned when a judge performs activities or has (personal) financial connections that are questionable. What their family does should not be considered in isolation.
 
The notion that public employees are paid "exclusively" with taxpayer dollars is a foolish notion. Just as the revenue that comes into the U.S. Treasure isn't all tax collections, nor is the revenue that comes into state budgets all taxes collected by its residents. There are several ways states bring in revenue among them:

- interest on investments (stocks, [municiple] bonds which many states use to fund retirement accounts)

- equipment/property sales

- matching state & federal funds

- federal grants/loans

- taxes

So, to say that ALL public employee pay comes from tax collection and only tax collect is a foolish argument. Tax revenue may make up the majority of any state's budget, but they are not the sole revenue source. In fact, for the department I work for in state government, 70% of our employee's salaries come directly from Medicaid-matching funds between the state and the fed. And it's been that way for over 20 years.
 
The notion that public employees are paid "exclusively" with taxpayer dollars is a foolish notion. Just as the revenue that comes into the U.S. Treasure isn't all tax collections, nor is the revenue that comes into state budgets all taxes collected by its residents. There are several ways states bring in revenue among them:

- interest on investments (stocks, [municiple] bonds which many states use to fund retirement accounts)

- equipment/property sales

- matching state & federal funds

- federal grants/loans

- taxes

So, to say that ALL public employee pay comes from tax collection and only tax collect is a foolish argument. Tax revenue may make up the majority of any state's budget, but they are not the sole revenue source. In fact, for the department I work for in state government, 70% of our employee's salaries come directly from Medicaid-matching funds between the state and the fed. And it's been that way for over 20 years.

Nice try. Every asset, every Federal grant and loan, every piece of equipment and every smidgeon of interest collected on investments is taxpayer money. As for Federal -- that money belongs to the state, thus it belongs to the taxpayers. In fact, ya' don't even have to be a taxpayer for that money to belong to you. You just have to reside in Wisconsin.

Your fancy math re your own department is just fun with numbers.
 
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/118594454.html

Appeals panel: Supreme Court should take up collective bargaining law

I would think that if the appeals court is kicking it up, they probably had a reason to think that judge Sumi was wrong in her original hold. It would have been very easy for them to just affirm, if they thought the ruling was legitimate.
 
Is this an problem for the liberals?
"This is a problem. Judge Maryann Sumi should have recused herself entirely from the Wisconsin battle due to her inability to be neutral in this case. You see, Maryann Sumi has a clear conflict of interest. Her son is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council. Both the SEIU and the AFL-CIO have members who are public-sector employees in Wisconsin. In fact, as a federation, the AFL-CIO can boast of several member-unions that represent public-sector employees. Maryann Sumi is hardly an unbiased judge in the matter."

"On Friday, unions scored a temporary victory to maintain their ability to collect union dues from Wisconsin public employees when Judge Maryann Sumi (the same judge who refused to order striking teachers back to work in February) issued a Temporary Restraining Order preventing the implementation of Wisconsin’s new law governing public-sector unions."


Conflict of interest. Yes, there is.

Links to your source pls.
 
let's examine real conflict of interest:

Letter to the Department of Justice re: Conflicts of Interest in the Citizens United case - Common Cause


allow me to speculate that you see no problem with scalia and thomas sleeping with the parties at interest while you do have a problem with a judge whose son formerly worked for a union

the hypocrisy would be laughable, if the importance were not so serious

You're speculation would be incorrect. My momma taught me that no matter the number of wrongs, you can never make them right. :peace
 

How about an objective news source -- not a right-leaning forum, they tend to add an extra spin cycle.

Interestingly, all your sources use the same (talking point) phrasing to cast the judge's son in a negative light. It's almost as if they got it from a political operative for the right. Any actual journalists around?
 
How about an objective news source -- not a right-leaning forum, they tend to add an extra spin cycle.

Interestingly, all your sources use the same (talking point) phrasing to cast the judge's son in a negative light. It's almost as if they got it from a political operative for the right. Any actual journalists around?


I assume you are going to chastise Bubba's post as well for using the site Common Cause?


j-mac
 
I assume you are going to chastise Bubba's post as well for using the site Common Cause?


j-mac

actually, common cause IS the source of the letter to the DOJ, requesting the recusal of the two supreme court judges in the buy the government ruling
 
How about an objective news source -- not a right-leaning forum, they tend to add an extra spin cycle.

Interestingly, all your sources use the same (talking point) phrasing to cast the judge's son in a negative light. It's almost as if they got it from a political operative for the right. Any actual journalists around?

One it hits the AP, they all pick it up. Why don't you look it up with a LEFT spin.
 
Links to your source pls.

Even if it were true, we generally don't convinct people of things in this country due to what their relatives have done. Its a nonissue.
 
meanwhile, big picture:

in NEW YORK cuomo wields an AX heavier than any ever swung by dear ronnie

in CALIFORNIA moonbeam and the sacto dems pledge they will slash TWELVE BILLION whether or not the gub gets his june special

in OHIO kasich out-cuts walker

in MICHIGAN martial law versus municipalities is now DONE

in ILLINOIS springfield progressives are copying cuomo and quinn says a-ok

in JERSEY chubby chris christie is TEARING IT UP in trenton

in WISCONSIN the seiu's and afscme's RACE to the capitol demanding their bennies be CUT and their pay-in's be UPPED by some 300%

in dark blue MARYLAND the unionistas PROTEST their own gub

in FLORIDA an end to union dues for POLITICAL ACTION is in the works

in INDIANA daniels, who ended collective bargaining in 05, won reelection with SIXTY PERCENT

and we've only just begun

it's all because public pensions AT THE STATE LEVEL ALONE are overpromised precariously to the tragic tune of TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS, collectively

FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

party on, public employees
 
actually, common cause IS the source of the letter to the DOJ, requesting the recusal of the two supreme court judges in the buy the government ruling

Robert Reich? Why am I not surprised...


j-mac
 
oh, puhleez

robert reich, bless his little heart, is both a committed partisan and an extremist

more power to him

but as an economist the only difference between reich and krugman is the former didn't blame mrs alaska for the gabby giffords shooting

stay up
 
oh, puhleez

robert reich, bless his little heart, is both a committed partisan and an extremist

more power to him

but as an economist the only difference between reich and krugman is the former didn't blame mrs alaska for the gabby giffords shooting

stay up
yes, soooo unaccomplished
you recognize him as the secretary of labor during the clinton administration
let's see how well our economy performed when he was at the helm of labor:
* Strong Economic Growth: Since President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, economic growth has averaged 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the Reagan-Bush years. The economy has grown for 116 consecutive months, the most in history.
* Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: The economy has created more than 22.5 million jobs in less than eight years—the most jobs ever created under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent, are in the private sector.
* Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993: Economic gains have been made across the spectrum as family incomes increased for all Americans. Since 1993, real median family income has increased by $6,338, from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).
* Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years: Overall unemployment has dropped to the lowest level in more than 30 years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. The unemployment rate has been below 5 percent for 40 consecutive months. Unemployment for African Americans has fallen from 14.2 percent in 1992 to 7.3 percent in October 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for Hispanics has fallen from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in October 2000, also the lowest rate on record.
* Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: Inflation is at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, and it is down from 4.7 percent during the previous administration.
* Highest Homeownership Rate on Record: The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent for the third quarter of 2000, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981 to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993.
* 7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty: The poverty rate has declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8 percent last year, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in 1993.
[emphasis added by bubba]
The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth

what a ****ty record as secretary of labor
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i know robert reich for a lot more than just his career with clinton

he is who he is

hardly a source to convince the mainstream

party on

where's krugman?
 
i know robert reich for a lot more than just his career with clinton

he is who he is

hardly a source to convince the mainstream

party on

where's krugman?

Was that suppose to be a point by refutation of his career? You keep sniping at Reich but what exactly is your point?
 
Was that suppose to be a point by refutation of his career? You keep sniping at Reich but what exactly is your point?


Point is that you libs are putting up the echo chamber to back your own narratives, it is laughable really.


j-mac
 
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