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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Unions need to shut up or put up. The Republicans and Walker are freakin' heros! If one of the most common sense laws gets defeated and those democrats that run away from responsibility dont vote on it then the next step needs to be taken. FIRE them! Fire the greedy state union workers! They brought this upon THEMSELVES!
    Again, who's not making sense now. The judge's decision is based solely on the misbehavior of the Republican controlled legislative committee not the state union workers. All this misdirected venting is as ineffectual as Republicans holding a legislative conference meeting without giving 24 hours notice.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Again, who's not making sense now. .
    That would be you.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Hmmmm...

    I'm on two sides of the fence here.

    Public sector employees are under the Tax Payers scrutiny.

    No one forces anyone to work for the Public Sector.

    HOWEVER.

    Given todays circumstances working for the Public Sector is very desirable and I can see why.

    I support unions.

    They protect the workers. They address legetimate worker concerns.

    But I cannot stress enough how important the following word is.

    BALANCE.

    Balance means the difference between corporate or government tyranny, and public sector vs. private sector union run amock.

    Balance is key.

    Where that balance lies. I do not have the answer.

    As McCain would say...

    "I'm not an expert on some of this stuff"

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    I read a quote from the judge the other day. By reading between the lines, I knew this would be her decision. Seemed to me she really had her mind made up before even hearing any arguments.

    Wis. judge pushes back hearing on union bill lawsuit, says decision won't come soon | StarTribune.com

    Judge Maryann Sumi (SOO'-mee) told attorneys she'll hold a hearing on Friday. She may decide whether to block publication that day if she's comfortable, but said she won't rule on the rest of the case that day.

    She says she'll be out all next week and warned that no one should expect a quick resolution.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    That would be you.
    You can say that but it would be just as nonsensical as you taking out the judge's decision on the state union workers.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If Walker thought he was doing the correct thing, he should have mentioned it in his campaign, not spring it on the electorate once he took office. The guy is an authoritarian dictator or should I say dick tator.
    All people had to do was look at his record. He's fought unions several times in his career.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Want me to find a media matters article arguing for my side so we can just post biased media sources to prove our point?
    Are you saying the workers aren't forced into that HC plan?
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This is the WORST decision this judge could make. I think I need to give this jackass judge a call and tell him where to stick his decision!!!

    This new law needs to go into effect NOW!
    It was just about the only decision the judge could make. The law is being challenged in court, and if he does not block it and the law is found to be inappropriate, major damage is done to the unions and those they represent. If the law is upheld, then this just delays it. Really, whether you are for or against the law, I am struggling to see how you could find this ruling inappropriate. The job of judges is not to do what you want them to, it is to do their best to do what is right and fair, which sometimes means things you won't like.

    Let me give you an example: DADT was rules unconstitutional last year, as was DOMA and prop 8. Three big wins for gay rights(an issue I am highly motivated on). In all 3 cases it was rules that the laws should stay implemented until they had made it through the next case. While I would much prefer to have had all three thrown out right on the spot, I agree that holding them, logically, was the right thing to do, despite not wanting that.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hmmmm...

    I'm on two sides of the fence here.

    Public sector employees are under the Tax Payers scrutiny.

    No one forces anyone to work for the Public Sector.

    HOWEVER.

    Given todays circumstances working for the Public Sector is very desirable and I can see why.

    I support unions.

    They protect the workers. They address legetimate worker concerns.

    But I cannot stress enough how important the following word is.

    BALANCE.

    Balance means the difference between corporate or government tyranny, and public sector vs. private sector union run amock.

    Balance is key.

    Where that balance lies. I do not have the answer.

    As McCain would say...

    "I'm not an expert on some of this stuff"
    Thanks Prof Boogieman

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I asked you this in the other thread, but you ignored the question... let's try again, shall we???

    Are elected officials ONLY allowed/supposed to address issues they campaigned on, and nothing else? Multiple posters have whined like little girls about how 'Walker never even campaigned on that issue', like it matters.
    Wonder why PB is scared to answer this? Too direct a question I guess. No way to dance around it. Typical.

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