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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

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    Laughs, I know the difference between a governor and a president. However they are both elected official.
    Did you mean to say that they are both elected officials? Or did you mean to say they were both elected officially? What you said makes no sense as written.

    But regardless, it does not matter - every person elected to any position in this land - from the lowest drain commissioner or justice of the peace to mamber of the state or national legislature is an officially elected official.


    It's not my problem that you fail to see the parallels in what they are doing, and you can either agree or disagree with what is being done, as stated, I have no problem either way, but to agree with one, and not the other in pure hackery.
    Actually is is your fault because you failed to properly draw any real parallels between the two. You ignore the very idea of federalism and you ignore that the governing documents outlining their powers, duties and obligations are far different and separate. So it is your fault.

    You might not like being told that, but the truth is often painful.
    You can tell anyone anything you want to tell them - myself included. And when it makes little or no sense and is based on faulty reasoning and a lack of proper understanding of the way government is structured, functions and is conducted, I will tell you that. Its okay- the truth is often painful. But if you learn from your mistakes, all the better.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    The judge is a fool and a puppet.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Did you mean to say that they are both elected officials? Or did you mean to say they were both elected officially? What you said makes no sense as written.

    But regardless, it does not matter - every person elected to any position in this land - from the lowest drain commissioner or justice of the peace to mamber of the state or national legislature is an officially elected official.




    Actually is is your fault because you failed to properly draw any real parallels between the two. You ignore the very idea of federalism and you ignore that the governing documents outlining their powers, duties and obligations are far different and separate. So it is your fault.



    You can tell anyone anything you want to tell them - myself included. And when it makes little or no sense and is based on faulty reasoning and a lack of proper understanding of the way government is structured, functions and is conducted, I will tell you that. Its okay- the truth is often painful. But if you learn from your mistakes, all the better.

    Haymarket, when you get a chance could you address my questions?

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Or better yet, just jail them all and throw away the key. Habeus Corpus is a waste of time on CONservatives.
    Ah, a true liberal. Let the purges begin.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Is this an problem for the liberals?
    "This is a problem. Judge Maryann Sumi should have recused herself entirely from the Wisconsin battle due to her inability to be neutral in this case. You see, Maryann Sumi has a clear conflict of interest. Her son is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council. Both the SEIU and the AFL-CIO have members who are public-sector employees in Wisconsin. In fact, as a federation, the AFL-CIO can boast of several member-unions that represent public-sector employees. Maryann Sumi is hardly an unbiased judge in the matter."

    "On Friday, unions scored a temporary victory to maintain their ability to collect union dues from Wisconsin public employees when Judge Maryann Sumi (the same judge who refused to order striking teachers back to work in February) issued a Temporary Restraining Order preventing the implementation of Wisconsinís new law governing public-sector unions."

    Wisconsin Judge Maryann Sumi & Her (SEIU, AFL-CIO) Political Operative Son | RedState

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Candice Lynn View Post
    The judge is a fool and a puppet.
    Why do you say that?


    What evidence do you have that he's a puppet?

    We know that's the case with the Gov -- (see phone call w/ fake Koch brother) -- we know who pulls his strings. But if you're going to accuse the judge, better have something to back it up.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Actually you don't know that Governor Walker is a fool. And if you're going to accuse the Governor, then you'd better have something to back it up with. There have been no laws broken.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Too bad the judge can't levy a punitive fine against the WisCONsin GOP.
    It's called separation of powers.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Is this an problem for the liberals?
    "This is a problem. Judge Maryann Sumi should have recused herself entirely from the Wisconsin battle due to her inability to be neutral in this case. You see, Maryann Sumi has a clear conflict of interest. Her son is a political operative who also happens to be a former lead field manager with the AFL-CIO and data manager for the SEIU State Council. Both the SEIU and the AFL-CIO have members who are public-sector employees in Wisconsin. In fact, as a federation, the AFL-CIO can boast of several member-unions that represent public-sector employees. Maryann Sumi is hardly an unbiased judge in the matter."

    "On Friday, unions scored a temporary victory to maintain their ability to collect union dues from Wisconsin public employees when Judge Maryann Sumi (the same judge who refused to order striking teachers back to work in February) issued a Temporary Restraining Order preventing the implementation of Wisconsin’s new law governing public-sector unions."

    Wisconsin Judge Maryann Sumi & Her (SEIU, AFL-CIO) Political Operative Son | RedState
    The implication of her son having a job being an indication of her ability to be impartial is silly.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Did you mean to say that they are both elected officials? Or did you mean to say they were both elected officially? What you said makes no sense as written.

    But regardless, it does not matter - every person elected to any position in this land - from the lowest drain commissioner or justice of the peace to mamber of the state or national legislature is an officially elected official.




    Actually is is your fault because you failed to properly draw any real parallels between the two. You ignore the very idea of federalism and you ignore that the governing documents outlining their powers, duties and obligations are far different and separate. So it is your fault.



    You can tell anyone anything you want to tell them - myself included. And when it makes little or no sense and is based on faulty reasoning and a lack of proper understanding of the way government is structured, functions and is conducted, I will tell you that. Its okay- the truth is often painful. But if you learn from your mistakes, all the better.
    You might fail to see the parallels.... but that doesn't make them non existent.

    In the case of the president, he can take over any business he deems (without evidence) to pose a financial risk to the nation.

    In the case of Michigan, the governor can take over, *towns or school districts that in he deems to pose a financial risk to the state of Michigan.

    I see both those statements as doing the very same thing, giving one person the power to take over, and in my opinion, you can either disagree with both of them, or you can agree with both of them. To agree with one and disagree with the other is just plain and simply hypocritical.

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