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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I did not see this post before I responded to your second one. This, I say, is interesting. Since I don't have enough knowledge on this, and that from my lack of knowledge, I see this as an interesting point that I'm unable to refute.

    Would someone here be able to respond to his quote in my place? It does interest me.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    regarding the recall efforts in WI...
    The right of recall in Wisconsin extends to all elective offices in the state, but only after the elected official has served a full year in his or her current term of office.

    Specifically, the right of recall extends to all statewide executive officers, including the Governor of Wisconsin, the Lieutenant Governor of Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Treasurer, the Attorney General of Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Secretary of State, the Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Instruction, and all members of the Wisconsin State Senate and the Wisconsin State Assembly.
    I've known this for weeks and YOU are just learning this? This is precisely why the recall of Walker can't happen until after January of next year. However, 8 GOP state senators are eligible to be recalled NOW!!!!!

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Does this remind anyone else of a little piece of legislature that recently passed? .....ill give you a hint....it has to do with a health care reform.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You're confused again. A judge put a halt to the bill and, thanks to recall efforts, several Republican state legislators will soon be up for recall. Because of the threat of recall, I'm guessing some of those Republicans will have second thoughts on their vote when the bill comes up again (assuming it gets reversed through the courts).

    Anyway, from your answer it sounds like you're in the possession of a Walker campaign ad or speech where he mentions his intentions regarding unions. Could you link it? I'd like to check it out.
    People here have been making this same request over and over and over again in many of the 629 threads on Wisconsin. Not once has anybody ever come up with something that you are asking for. NOT ONCE!
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Does this remind anyone else of a little piece of legislature that recently passed? .....ill give you a hint....it has to do with a health care reform.
    Umm, health care reform, I know this,

    Oh yeah, you mean the insurance ad, encognito as a health care reform.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Haymarket, that could possibly be because its a strawman and you're asking for something few if anyone is actually suggesting. Could you point out who is specifically stating he campaigned specifically about Unions?

    I have seen people said he campaigned on fiscal responsability, and that this ties in with it because he's attempting to eliminating the thing that helped to contribute to the financial issue in the first place. If you catch a thief that broke into your house and took your stuff, sure you want your stuff back...you also want to change the locks and update the code on yoru security system so that he can't just come in and do it all over again even if he promises he wouldn't do that.

    Getting the financial items rolled back with regards to the teacher unions is fiscally responsible on his part. Attempting to remove the tool that would allow them to return the state into a fiscal crisis in short order is also arguably a fiscal issue.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    There you go getting confused again. Did I say that officials or candidates are required to only enact policies that they talked about during the campaign? That's right, I didn't. What I said was that it's a matter of respect and honesty. The voters of WI know that Walker didn't reveal his intentions during the campaign. If he had, he wouldn't have been elected. They know that. He knows that.

    Here you go. Prove them wrong.
    I'm not confused one bit. You, however, seem to think that while campaigning, a candidate has to discuss everything he intends to propose once elected. That's never happened, and it never will. This is just the straw du jour that the left is grasping at to try and paint this legislation as being illegitimate.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here are two examples....I can only imagine how many more are out there undetected....




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    The author is not credible in my book:

    Warner Todd Huston is a Chicago based freelance writer. He has been writing opinion editorials and social criticism since early 2001 and before that he wrote articles on U.S. history for several small American magazines. His political columns are featured on many websites such as Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment.com, BigHollywood.com, and BigJournalism.com, as well as RightWingNews.com, CanadaFreePress.com, StoptheACLU.com, AmericanDailyReview.com, among many, many others. Mr. Huston is also endlessly amused that one of his articles formed the basis of an article in Germany's Der Spiegel Magazine in 2008.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is not what I asked.....You said that Unions preform a necessary function, I asked what that would be that the Government don't already have an agency to preform?


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    I told you. Unions are private entities which are created in order to increase the collective bargaining power of the worker so that they can better argue for contractual compensation for their labor than they otherwise could. There's not a government agency for that. There's health codes, safety regulations, and a minimum wage; but that all sets lower bounds on things which are standard. Unions are for the actual worker in the worker's situation with a specific company.
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