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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I'll rephrase my question. So that means all unions siphon money to Obama?

    I don't know about all unions, this one did, with these two individuals....If we could ever get unions to open the books maybe we'd find out....

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here are two examples....I can only imagine how many more are out there undetected....




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    hmmmm...seems this was dismissed...Federal Elections Commission (FEC) press release - FEC TAKES FINAL ACTION ON SIX CASES - LegiStorm


    RESPONDENTS:
    Baldwin County Education Association (BCEA); Saadia Hunter, BCEA President; Alabama Education Association (AEA); National Education Association (NEA); and National Education Association Fund for Children and Public Education (NEA Fund)

    COMPLAINANTS:
    National Right to Work Legal Defense and Education Foundation, Inc.; Claire Waites; and Jeanne Fox

    SUBJECT:
    The complaint alleged that BCEA, a local labor union, made a prohibited contribution to the NEA Fund, the NEA’s separate segregated fund. The complaint further alleged that BCEA and Hunter made, and AEA and the NEA Fund accepted, contributions in the name of two of the complainants, Waites and Fox. Additional allegations included that Hunter, BCEA, AEA or the NEA Fund failed to inform Waites and Fox of the political purposes of the NEA Fund at the time of solicitation and that Hunter, BCEA or the NEA Fund failed to inform Waites and Fox of their right to refuse to contribute without any reprisal.

    OUTCOME:
    The Commission used its prosecutorial discretion to dismiss the matter in light of the small dollar amount at issue and the inconsistencies in the factual record of this matter.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

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    Let's take a closer look. Consider this: The unions agreed to financial cuts. He then took away their collective bargaining rights. Look at what the union members state: they state that it was not about money, but cutting off the funnel that connects union money to democratic presidential candidates. Why do you think Walker did that if the unions agreed to the financial cuts? Because it would halt the cash flow that would undoubtedly fuel Obama's second campaign. Why do you think the union members were so furious that the bargaining rights were cut after they agreed to financial cuts? Because now they can't funnel money to democratic campaigns. Why do you think the unions are so interested in it? Screw their tiny increased pay towards their pensions---they can't fund democratic elections. Why do you think unions from all around the state came to protest? Why do you think Republicans are jumping to cut the union cash flow in other states? Do you know what a punch in the wallet is like? It's similar to a punch in the testicles, the pain lasts much longer. You cut the heartstrings of the democratic money flow.
    So you admit that Walker's true intentions were to hurt Democratic fundraising capabilities? In other words, you admit that Walker's fight was never about the budget, it was about politics. At least you admit it. Maybe you can get Walker to do the same. He keeps trying to sell it as a budget issue when, clearly, it is not.


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I'll rephrase my question. So that means all unions siphon money to Obama?
    I don't deal in absolutes anymore save for my religious beliefs. I am almost sure that all unions do not do so. However, that is an unknown. Though, I have seen on the Glenn Beck show that George Soros supposedly funds some of them. Who knows. I'm not fool enough to think Beck is absolutely right or absolutely wrong, but I do know he's been quite right at times, and that those who are wise can see certain schemes that aren't seen by those who merely require proof. They can see such schemes before the evidence presents itself.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    hmmmm...seems this was dismissed...Federal Elections Commission (FEC) press release - FEC TAKES FINAL ACTION ON SIX CASES - LegiStorm


    RESPONDENTS:
    Baldwin County Education Association (BCEA); Saadia Hunter, BCEA President; Alabama Education Association (AEA); National Education Association (NEA); and National Education Association Fund for Children and Public Education (NEA Fund)

    COMPLAINANTS:
    National Right to Work Legal Defense and Education Foundation, Inc.; Claire Waites; and Jeanne Fox

    SUBJECT:
    The complaint alleged that BCEA, a local labor union, made a prohibited contribution to the NEA Fund, the NEA’s separate segregated fund. The complaint further alleged that BCEA and Hunter made, and AEA and the NEA Fund accepted, contributions in the name of two of the complainants, Waites and Fox. Additional allegations included that Hunter, BCEA, AEA or the NEA Fund failed to inform Waites and Fox of the political purposes of the NEA Fund at the time of solicitation and that Hunter, BCEA or the NEA Fund failed to inform Waites and Fox of their right to refuse to contribute without any reprisal.

    OUTCOME:
    The Commission used its prosecutorial discretion to dismiss the matter in light of the small dollar amount at issue and the inconsistencies in the factual record of this matter.

    Oh, so the amount of the money is what is at question....I guess we can throw the law out the window then.... What a load of crap....Does the law tie an amount to what is at stake in breaking it?


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    So you admit that Walker's true intentions were to hurt Democratic fundraising capabilities? In other words, you admit that Walker's fight was never about the budget, it was about politics. At least you admit it. Maybe you can get Walker to do the same. He keeps trying to sell it as a budget issue when, clearly, it is not.
    Again, look at my sig. What do I know? I'm merely an impressionable young man that can see the flaws in both parties. If you could do the same, then you'd undoubtedly admit that I was correct in full in the latest quote of mine you responded to. You see, in politics, if you can snip the money strings of the other party, in this case the money flow from taxpayers to democratic elections, you gain an advantage. Thank you for indirectly acknowledging that republicans wanted to snip that money flow. I consider such funneling to be wrong, which is my only reason for posting here.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    So you admit that Walker's true intentions were to hurt Democratic fundraising capabilities? In other words, you admit that Walker's fight was never about the budget, it was about politics. At least you admit it. Maybe you can get Walker to do the same. He keeps trying to sell it as a budget issue when, clearly, it is not.

    Sure it is, it's both.....Funny how upset you libs get when your own tactics are used against you.


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so what functions do Unions represent that we don't now have duplicate regulatory agencies in the Federal Government to take care of?

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    Unions in general are association and contract rights. People have the right to associate, thus they can form the Union. They have the right to contract, which is the main purpose of the Union. It's to collectivize their bargaining power so that they can best argue for contractual compensation for their labor. Nothing inherently wrong with it.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, so the amount of the money is what is at question....I guess we can throw the law out the window then.... What a load of crap....Does the law tie an amount to what is at stake in breaking it?


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    perhaps you shouldnt cherry pick...what was the rest of that sentence j? '..and the inconsistencies in the factual record of this matter.' seems the FEC thought something didnt sound right with the complaint. you brought up the complaint, i showed you where it was dismissed.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How much does it cost each person in taxes to support the unions? Being a full-time student, it doesn't affect me currently. Yet.

    The only info that I'm aware of is the fact that taxpayers forfeit money to the unions, which in turn transfer that money to Democratic presidential campaigns. If a democrat/liberal is reading this, would it bother you if your taxes were going to a Republican presidential campaign? If my source is correct, supposedly 130 million dollars were taken by taxpayers, through unions, and transferred to Obama's campaign. To me it seems crooked. I thought union members were to benefit from the money, not presidential candidates.
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