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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    That's quite the stretch. Union dues go to Obama's campaign? I'm sure you have evidence to back that up.

    Well, here are two examples....I can only imagine how many more are out there undetected....

    The folks over at the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation filed a formal complaint with the FEC over a case of two Alabama teachers that discovered a union scheme to “divert their money” into a political contribution last year.

    Teachers File FEC Complaint against NEA for Illegal PAC Money Laundering Scheme

    Sworn testimony indicates union officials misled educators, diverted union treasury funds into political committee

    Washington, DC (January 13, 2009) – The National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation announced today it will file a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) asking it to investigate charges made by two Alabama educators who discovered a union scheme to divert their money into the National Education Association’s (NEA) political action committee (PAC).

    Claire Waites, the chair of the science department, and Dr. Jeanne Fox, an assistant principal, both work at Daphne Middle School in Bay Minette, Alabama. Waites and Fox are both members of the Baldwin County Education Association (BCEA), Alabama Education Association (AEA), and NEA teacher unions.

    In July 2008, Waites and Fox attended the NEA’s annual convention in Washington, DC, as delegates of the BCEA. By telephone, BCEA union president Saadia Hunter informed Waites and Fox that contributions to a “children’s fund” in their names were made from money included in their expense reimbursements for their trip to the convention.

    Although Hunter told Waites that these contributions were not political in nature, they actually went to the NEA’s PAC, the NEA Fund for Children and Public Education.

    Later, Hunter admitted that the money would be contributed to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Sworn statements by Waites and Fox indicate that the AEA union boss also admitted that the PAC contributions were paid with BCEA members’ dues. However, it is illegal for unions to contribute to political candidates using “dues, fees, or other moneys required as a condition of membership in a labor organization.”

    Teachers Upset Union Dues Misdirected To Obama Campaign | THE UNION LABEL

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here are two examples....I can only imagine how many more are out there undetected....




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    So that means union money goes to Obama? OK


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    regarding the recall efforts in WI...
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, here are two examples....I can only imagine how many more are out there undetected....




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    You can ask the same of government as well, I'm sure there's lots of suspicious activity we know little about. But here is a point with Unions where you have improper activity, it is up to the people in the Union to make sure it stays properly constrained, such as taking them to court in this case. It is hardly cause to erase all unions. Unions still serve a purpose, they're just like government; necessary evils. You have to restrain them properly to have them work properly. But just as with government, you don't huck the whole thing out. There is need for it on some level.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    I'm sure you have evidence to back that up.
    Let's take a closer look. Consider this: The unions agreed to financial cuts. He then took away their collective bargaining rights. Look at what the union members state: they state that it was not about money, but cutting off the funnel that connects union money to democratic presidential candidates. Why do you think Walker did that if the unions agreed to the financial cuts? Because it would halt the cash flow that would undoubtedly fuel Obama's second campaign. Why do you think the union members were so furious that the bargaining rights were cut after they agreed to financial cuts? Because now they can't funnel money to democratic campaigns. Why do you think the unions are so interested in it? Screw their tiny increased pay towards their pensions---they can't fund democratic elections. Why do you think unions from all around the state came to protest? Why do you think Republicans are jumping to cut the union cash flow in other states? Do you know what a punch in the wallet is like? It's similar to a punch in the testicles, the pain lasts much longer. You cut the heartstrings of the democratic money flow.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    So that means union money goes to Obama? OK
    Although Hunter told Waites that these contributions were not political in nature, they actually went to the NEA’s PAC, the NEA Fund for Children and Public Education.

    Later, Hunter admitted that the money would be contributed to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.
    Reading comprehension.....It is a good thing....


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can ask the same of government as well, I'm sure there's lots of suspicious activity we know little about. But here is a point with Unions where you have improper activity, it is up to the people in the Union to make sure it stays properly constrained, such as taking them to court in this case. It is hardly cause to erase all unions. Unions still serve a purpose, they're just like government; necessary evils. You have to restrain them properly to have them work properly. But just as with government, you don't huck the whole thing out. There is need for it on some level.

    Ok, so what functions do Unions represent that we don't now have duplicate regulatory agencies in the Federal Government to take care of?

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    union campaign contributions are separate from union dues.....their are federal laws against using dues for political purposes....unions raise money through voluntary contributions
    If they are mere donations, then assuredly they wouldn't be so mad when Walker cut their bargaining rights after they agreed to the financial cuts? No. Money from taxpayers are being funneled to the unions and given to democratic campaigns.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Reading comprehension.....It is a good thing....


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    I'll rephrase my question. So that means all unions siphon money to Obama?


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    So that means union money goes to Obama? OK
    From taxpayers.

    When Republicans typically give to campaigns, it is done so privately. Though, I am curious about the case you mentioned earlier.

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