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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    WI statutes have nothing to do with it. It's all about respect and honesty. WI is a strong union state. Always has been. Some say it's the birthplace of unions. If Walker had been upfront about his plans regarding union bargaining rights, he would not have won election. He is deceitful. WI has figured that out and they're not happy about it. Look at a poll sometime.

    So, again, do you have a copy of a Walker campaign ad or speech where he told voters that he planned on ending collective bargaining for public sector unions? I'll wait while you research it.
    What good are the unions if $130,000,000 was supposedly funneled from taxpayers by the unions and given towards Obama's campaign? That's not credible. Union members should recieve the money for their livelihood, not donated to a presidential candidate.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    WI statutes have nothing to do with it. It's all about respect and honesty. WI is a strong union state. Always has been. Some say it's the birthplace of unions. If Walker had been upfront about his plans regarding union bargaining rights, he would not have won election. He is deceitful. WI has figured that out and they're not happy about it. Look at a poll sometime.

    So, again, do you have a copy of a Walker campaign ad or speech where he told voters that he planned on ending collective bargaining for public sector unions? I'll wait while you research it.
    then what did the judge use to determine this so called halt to the law that you hang your hat on?

    Oh, and I guess "rule of law" only counts when you can use, and twist it for your own means eh?


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    WI statutes have nothing to do with it. It's all about respect and honesty. WI is a strong union state. Always has been. Some say it's the birthplace of unions. If Walker had been upfront about his plans regarding union bargaining rights, he would not have won election. He is deceitful. WI has figured that out and they're not happy about it. Look at a poll sometime.

    So, again, do you have a copy of a Walker campaign ad or speech where he told voters that he planned on ending collective bargaining for public sector unions? I'll wait while you research it.
    Unless you can show where an elected official is required to only enact policies he talked about during his campaign, your whole narrative is nothing but a red herring.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How much does it cost each person in taxes to support the unions? Being a full-time student, it doesn't affect me currently. Yet.

    The only info that I'm aware of is the fact that taxpayers forfeit money to the unions, which in turn transfer that money to Democratic presidential campaigns. If a democrat/liberal is reading this, would it bother you if your taxes were going to a Republican presidential campaign? If my source is correct, supposedly 130 million dollars were taken by taxpayers, through unions, and transferred to Obama's campaign. To me it seems crooked. I thought union members were to benefit from the money, not presidential candidates.
    That's quite the stretch. Union dues go to Obama's campaign? I'm sure you have evidence to back that up.

    By the way, I'm assuming you have a problem with the US Chamber of Commerce giving 90% of political donations to Republicans. Political donations that were funded in part with money from businesses who receive tax payer subsidies.


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Your mistake was thinking in the first place. You don't know anything about me. Try again.
    All I know about you is what you post. If you wish people to have a different perception of you, then don't post things that make you look like a good little sycophant.
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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What good are the unions if $130,000,000 was supposedly funneled from taxpayers by the unions and given towards Obama's campaign? That's not credible. Union members should recieve the money for their livelihood, not donated to a presidential candidate.
    I'm sure you have evidence to back that up.


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    All I know about you is what you post. If you wish people to have a different perception of you, then don't post things that make you look like a good little sycophant.
    Is 'sycophant' your word of the day? Try a new one. It's getting old.


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    That's quite the stretch. Union dues go to Obama's campaign? I'm sure you have evidence to back that up.

    By the way, I'm assuming you have a problem with the US Chamber of Commerce giving 90% of political donations to Republicans. Political donations that were funded in part with money from businesses who receive tax payer subsidies.
    That's actually common knowledge that unions donate to democratic campaigns, ergo, I needn't a source. Then, if I wished, I could check your post history for biased statements and ask for links, just to show how annoying it could be. Common knowledge is different than biased statements.

    If the second paragraph is true, then that too, to me, is wrong. Look at my sig. Just because one side does "x" doesn't mean another side should do "x" as well. Meaning I dislike hypocrisy. However, it is all in the details. The second paragraph may not be the exact same as the union donations I mentioned. The tricky part about demanding links and proof is that it's not a one-way street. I would ask that you provide proof of your statement, which was not common knowledge. What made my statement common knowledge is because I have seen in both media channels and in political forums arguments that support and defend the fact that unions donate millions to democratic campaigns. Both sides acknowledge yet differ on that issue. Ergo, common knowledge.

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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Unless you can show where an elected official is required to only enact policies he talked about during his campaign, your whole narrative is nothing but a red herring.
    There you go getting confused again. Did I say that officials or candidates are required to only enact policies that they talked about during the campaign? That's right, I didn't. What I said was that it's a matter of respect and honesty. The voters of WI know that Walker didn't reveal his intentions during the campaign. If he had, he wouldn't have been elected. They know that. He knows that.

    Here you go. Prove them wrong.

    Scott Walker tanking in another Wisconsin poll [UPDATE] - Minneapolis / St. Paul News - The Blotter

    There's more bad poll news for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who insists he's going to stand firm in his budget battle to strip public employees of their collective bargaining rights.

    Rasmussen Reports is out with a new survey of Wisconsin voters showing that 57 percent of them don't approve of how he's handling his job.

    He's held in even lower esteem by parents with kids in public schools, where teachers have already agreed to a pay cut: 67 percent of those voters disapprove of what Walker is doing.

    The Rasmussen findings come after a Public Policy Polling survey last week that asked Wisconsin voters whether they would support Walker over his Democratic opponent in November, Tom Barrett, in a do-over.
    Barrett beat Walker by a 52-45 margin.


    Those kinds of results, and national polls that reflect similar sentiments, prompted Forbes Magazine to declare that Walker has lost his war in "one of the great political miscalculations of our time."


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    Re: Judge issues temporary order barring public union law's implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That's actually common knowledge that unions donate to democratic campaigns, ergo, I needn't a source. Then, if I wished, I could check your post history for biased statements and ask for links, just to show how annoying it could be. Common knowledge is different than biased statements.

    If the second paragraph is true, then that too, to me, is wrong. Look at my sig. Just because one side does "x" doesn't mean another side should do "x" as well. Meaning I dislike hypocrisy. However, it is all in the details. The second paragraph may not be the exact same as the union donations I mentioned. The tricky part about demanding links and proof is that it's not a one-way street. I would ask that you provide proof of your statement, which was not common knowledge. What made my statement common knowledge is because I have seen in both media channels and in political forums arguments that support and defend the fact that unions donate millions to democratic campaigns. Both sides acknowledge yet differ on that issue. Ergo, common knowledge.
    union campaign contributions are separate from union dues.....their are federal laws against using dues for political purposes....unions raise money through voluntary contributions

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