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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There are amphib units on station off the Libyan coast. There's a lot of potential for American troops to be deployed in this TO.
    I don't think they will be, en masse. Perhaps SOF, Recon, etc, for target acquisition...

    I am looking for the trains reaching Bengazi, with food, water, med supplies, arms and ammo. I heard Italy and Egypt were both participating on that front. The Libyans can handle the ground war, if we neutralize the air and armor.

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No where does the resolution 1973 identify France, Britan and Lebanon proposed the resolution. You're indicating that the U.S. is a minor partner - provide evidence of this, because I see it as spin.

    Security Council Approves ‘No-Fly Zone’ over Libya, Authorizing ‘All Necessary Measures’ to Protect Civilians, by Vote of 10 in Favour with 5 Abstentions

    "...Introducing the resolution, the Foreign Minister of France, Alain Juppé, said “the situation on the ground is more alarming than ever, marked by the violent re-conquest of cities that have been released”. The Security Council could not stand by and “let the warmongers flout international legality”. The world was experiencing “a wave of great revolutions that would change the course of history”, but the will of the Libyan people had been “trampled under the feet of the Qadhafi regime”. Earlier Council measures had been ignored and violence against Libyan civilians had redoubled...."

    Security Council Approves ‘No-Fly Zone’ over Libya, Authorizing ‘All Necessary Measures’ to Protect Civilians, by Vote of 10 in Favour with 5 Abstentions

    "United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, on the situation in Libya, is a measure that was adopted on 17 March 2011. The Security Council resolution was proposed by France, Lebanon, and the United Kingdom."

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I don't think they will be, en masse. Perhaps SOF, Recon, etc, for target acquisition...
    No, Obama said no ground troops and that's the way it is. If the zoomies need FO's, the Brits and the French need to insert some people for that.

    I am looking for the trains reaching Bengazi, with food, water, med supplies, arms and ammo. I heard Italy and Egypt were both participating on that front. The Libyans can handle the ground war, if we neutralize the air and armor.
    We'll have to kill some government infantrymen, too. Even without air, arty and armor, the government troops are trained alot more better than the rebels.

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Looks like the AMERICAN Tomahawk missiles today say differently.
    Where did I claim otherwise? Britain launched American made "Tomahawk" (TM) missiles at Gadaffi forces. The US did too, as part of the UN coalition, not as the warmonger.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Where did I claim otherwise? Britain launched American made "Tomahawk" (TM) missiles at Gadaffi forces. The US did too, as part of the UN coalition, not as the warmonger.
    The difference is? Let me guess, one war you agree with, the other you don't agree with?

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Neocons said the same thing about Iraq didn't they? It was all about the WMD's and not the oil, yet the narrative for years from media and our left wing bretheren was "No blood for oil". Fact is, Libya does supply much of it's oil to Europe.
    The left wing are pretty good at making claims without any evidence. Somebody who tells me Iraq was invaded for oil has just about as much credibility as somebody who tells me aliens are visiting planet Earth.

    I still don't see how Libya having oil is relevant. The intervening forces wanted a UN mandate that disallowed ground troops and permitted a no-fly zone. Unless the Americans have a top secret jet that can suck oil out of the ground from the air then what your telling me is just another made up conspiracy theory.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The left wing are pretty good at making claims without any evidence. Somebody who tells me Iraq was invaded for oil has just about as much credibility as somebody who tells me aliens are visiting planet Earth.
    I guess Republicans John McCain and Alan Greenspan are just as bad:

    In his long-awaited memoir - out tomorrow in the US - Greenspan, 81, who served as chairman of the US Federal Reserve for almost two decades, writes: 'I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.'
    Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m | World news | The Observer

    "My friends, I will have an energy policy which will eliminate our dependence on oil from Middle East that will then prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East." -John McCain
    ...But I thought we were in the Middle East for WMDs and bin Laden? What does oil have to do with that?

    First Read - McCain: Iraq war was for oil?


    And then you have the circumstantial evidence:
    "Four western companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power."
    How convenient.
    The Iraq War Was About Oil, All Along | World | AlterNet

    The reason the U.S. takes on war/humanitarian interventions in Libya/Iraq/ME and not in the multiple other countries where leaders kill their population is because the Middle East is filled with a huge interest of ours: oil. The funny part is that we only get 22% of our oil from the Middle East so we do it mostly for our allies who get most of their oil from the region. The United States goes where its interests lie. It would be illogical to discount oil as one of its primary interests in the ME.

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It would be illogical to discount oil as one of its primary interests in the ME.
    Absolutely right. But another of our primary interests is to democratize the ME. Dictatorships only provide short-term stability.

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Absolutely right. But another of our primary interests is to democratize the ME. Dictatorships only provide short-term stability.
    I agree completely.

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Absolutely right. But another of our primary interests is to democratize the ME. Dictatorships only provide short-term stability.
    Let's say it is complete and total democracy for the people of Libya, Iraq, etc....****ing absurd!!! Hell, we don't have a democracy in the US and I for one am glad, I do not subscribe to the chaos method of governance by rabble.

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