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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Good point. I would have thought better sense from such a learned and intelligent President who's entire first election was trashing actions such as these from his predicessor.
    So far, Obama has mainly taken a back seat and let the British and French take the lead. He seems very reluctant about activist foreign policy approaches in general, which I think is appropriate. I'm not a big fan of the extent to which he's given the Europeans political cover for this, but hopefully that's the extent of American involvement in this conflict.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So far, Obama has mainly taken a back seat and let the British and French take the lead. He seems very reluctant about activist foreign policy approaches in general, which I think is appropriate. I'm not a big fan of the extent to which he's given the Europeans political cover for this, but hopefully that's the extent of American involvement in this conflict.
    But with that statement.

    How do you also say you support intervention in the Ivory Coast?

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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But with that statement.

    How do you also say you support intervention in the Ivory Coast?
    The humanitarian rewards considerably outweigh the minor risks in Cote d'Ivoire (or at least they did at the time...it might be too late now). That isn't the case in Libya. I have no problem with peacekeeping missions as a rule, but that doesn't mean I'm going to support intervention everywhere, regardless of circumstance. Every country is different and should be treated as such.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    President Obama is diplomatically rehabilitating America's tarnished warmongering image abroad and especially in the ME. There can be no doubt of the US working behind the scenes, but the frontmen are the UN and the Arab league, as well as the Europeans. I'm hearing as I type that the British airstrikes have started with a few Tomahawks into the Libyan air defences.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So far, Obama has mainly taken a back seat and let the British and French take the lead. He seems very reluctant about activist foreign policy approaches in general, which I think is appropriate. I'm not a big fan of the extent to which he's given the Europeans political cover for this, but hopefully that's the extent of American involvement in this conflict.
    Was it or was it not the U.S. who pushed this through the Security Council? So because it's not U.S. planes in the air first, it makes it all okay?
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    President Obama is diplomatically rehabilitating America's tarnished warmongering image abroad and especially in the ME. There can be no doubt of the US working behind the scenes, but the frontmen are the UN and the Arab league, as well as the Europeans.
    Obama is doing no such thing. He'd not have the U.S. warships anywhere near Libya if what you say were to be true, which it is not.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    France, Britain and the Lebanon proposed the resolution, The US "approved" of it. America will no doubt join in, but it is seen to not be the instigator.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Was it or was it not the U.S. who pushed this through the Security Council? So because it's not U.S. planes in the air first, it makes it all okay?
    Nope, but the Security Council listens to the US a lot more than they listen to France. As I said, I just hope that the political cover is the extent of our involvement in this.
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    France, Britain and the Lebanon proposed the resolution, The US "approved" of it. America will no doubt join in, but it is seen to not be the instigator.
    No where does the resolution 1973 identify France, Britan and Lebanon proposed the resolution. You're indicating that the U.S. is a minor partner - provide evidence of this, because I see it as spin.

    Security Council Approves ‘No-Fly Zone’ over Libya, Authorizing ‘All Necessary Measures’ to Protect Civilians, by Vote of 10 in Favour with 5 Abstentions
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    Re: UN authorizes no-fly zone over Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    President Obama is diplomatically rehabilitating America's tarnished warmongering image abroad and especially in the ME. There can be no doubt of the US working behind the scenes, but the frontmen are the UN and the Arab league, as well as the Europeans. I'm hearing as I type that the British airstrikes have started with a few Tomahawks into the Libyan air defences.
    Looks like the AMERICAN Tomahawk missiles today say differently.

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