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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're dreaming. from your own article here:



    Sour grapes dude. I guess the cowards shouldn't have skipped the state eh?


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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It looks like the die hard unions nuts and crybabies are desperately trying any sniveling tactic to over turn Wisconsin's anti-union laws.
    Looks like the Wisconsin GOP union-busters will even violate Wisconsin law to please their corporate masters.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    First of all what does the law say? After all if they gave enough notice and the Dems weren't in state to attend, then that's not a violation. Being open doesn't mean it can't happen if certain people are not there?

    As to the unions agreeing to the cuts, they did that only after fighting it till the point that they saw they were going to lose. Only THEN did they try to make it look like they wanted to cooperate. Especially since they probably were planing to use the collective bargaining powers to restore the levels they currently have and are about to lose after a year or so when the dusts settles. The idea was to prevent the PUBLIC unions (private unions were nowhere in the bill) from increasing the bill to taxpayers again.

    Mind you I think that all government positions, ESPECIALLY elected ones, need to be tied to the economy. If the economy goes up then their pay goes up. If it goes down, then their pay goes down. Makes a nice incentive to ensure the economy doesn't tank.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Interesting to see what the Courts say on this. This move isn't surprising, nor unexpected, nor exactly telling. One partisan side takes an action, another partisan on the other side takes an action, and we're supposed to be making a big deal like either one means anything? Wake me when a judge rules.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Was the open meetings law violated, or wasn't it? It's a very simple question.
    Like you give a **** what the truth is. The answer is YES for you regardless of anything else because it fits your idealogical drive. This whole effort, is utter BS by people unable to accept the outcome, and will do anything and everything they can to destroy those that made it happen.

    Here we go, a little sanity, not that you'll admit it.

    What the DA doesn’t mention is that the bill in question is a special session bill, which gives it a completely different status than a regular bill. Senate Rule 93 essentially says that with special session bills, the senate rules apply with some special stipulations (my bold):

    Senate Rule 93. Special or extraordinary sessions. Unless otherwise provided by the senate for a specific special or extraordinary session , the rules of the senate adopted for the biennial session , with the following modifications, apply to each special session called by the governor and to each extraordinary session called by the senate and assembly organization committees or called by a joint resolution approved by both houses:

    Senate Rule 93 (2) (2) A notice of a committee meeting is not required other than posting on the legislative bulletin board, and a bulletin of committee hearings may not be published.

    So, as we’ve mentioned before, not even two hours was required — Scott Fitzgerald decided to offer it as a courtesy.
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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if it doesnt stick, walker could get something rare out of it...a 'do over'....a chance to limit some of the political fallout and actually sit down and negotiate with the unions.
    Negotiate? Why?

    So they can keep costing the Wisc. Taxpayers more then can be afforded? I don't see the bright side of this one.
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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Negotiate? Why?

    So they can keep costing the Wisc. Taxpayers more then can be afforded? I don't see the bright side of this one.
    as has been explained over and over, this has precious little to do with the budget and alot to do with simple union busting....last time i checked, 30 million was less than 3 billion, 30 million being the figure for immediate savings, and 300 million is less than 3 billion, 300 million the savings over several years, 3 billion being the total deficit....even with 300 mill in savings, that still leaves 2.7 billion in deficit...so stripping the unions of collective bargaining rights is going to fix this budget? uh, no, no its not....walker overstepped, and has a rare chance to say 'hey, i screwed up, lets get everyone together and talk this out'..

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    If the courts don't side with the Democrats on this, maybe they should just run away again like little wussies until they get their way

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    If the courts don't side with the Democrats on this, maybe they should just run away again like little wussies until they get their way
    i'd be ok with them leaving again, the gov needs to realize that he is not god almighty. he could accomplish alot by sitting down and talking.

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