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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You couldn't help but see this one coming. LOL. Should this lawsuit prevail in the courts, then Walker is back to square one on his bill to gut the teacher's unions in Wisconsin. Meanwhile, the recalls continue unabated.

    Article is here.
    If it sticks -- or any of them do -- look for Dems to don their running shoes. Again.
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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Was the open meetings law violated, or wasn't it? It's a very simple question.
    I've done a little research, and since it was a special session (under senate rule 33 if I recall correctly) they probably did not break the open meeting rule. But we'll know for certain in a couple of weeks.

    For us lay people, it quite simply comes down to wether you beleive the non-partisan senate chief or not.

    Senate Chief Clerk Rob Marchant said last week that lawmakers gave two hours' notice of the meeting but did not have to because Senate rules do not require public notice for meetings when the Legislatur**e is in special session, and those rules trump the open meetings law because the Legislatur**e was in special session.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Of course the People have this right and we'll see what the courts say. But I do have a question about all this. My understanding was that the unions did agree to the cut in pay so long as they had the ability later on when things recover to renegotiate their terms and get back what they had given up. Is this a correct summary? If so, I don't even see the point in gutting the union in the first place.
    Because there are real costs to the collective bargaining that was occuring in the state between sympathetic individuals. Captive benefits, emeritus programs, etc, etc.

    If you don't believe there are sympathetic individuals representing the tax payers, then how do you explain unions and school districts rushing through new contracts before the new bill can be published? If the school districts just waited a cople of days, they could save a hell lot of money.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Because there are real costs to the collective bargaining that was occuring in the state between sympathetic individuals. Captive benefits, emeritus programs, etc, etc.

    If you don't believe there are sympathetic individuals representing the tax payers, then how do you explain unions and school districts rushing through new contracts before the new bill can be published? If the school districts just waited a cople of days, they could save a hell lot of money.
    Nothing more than tactical delays, while stealthily moving forward in districts for the signing of new contracts that would encompass the next two years.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You couldn't help but see this one coming. LOL. Should this lawsuit prevail in the courts, then Walker is back to square one on his bill to gut the teacher's unions in Wisconsin. Meanwhile, the recalls continue unabated.

    Article is here.
    You're dreaming. from your own article here:

    A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, said Fitzgerald is confident the law was followed.
    Sour grapes dude. I guess the cowards shouldn't have skipped the state eh?


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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If it sticks -- or any of them do -- look for Dems to don their running shoes. Again.
    if it doesnt stick, walker could get something rare out of it...a 'do over'....a chance to limit some of the political fallout and actually sit down and negotiate with the unions.

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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if it doesnt stick, walker could get something rare out of it...a 'do over'....a chance to limit some of the political fallout and actually sit down and negotiate with the unions.
    Nah, keep the boot on their throat. Nice....I like liberal termanology.


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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, keep the boot on their throat. Nice....I like liberal termanology.


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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    his arse in a sling in less than a year....
    pfft, yeah right...You're talkin' out the wrong side of your neck.


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    Re: Wisconsin GOP senators violated open meetings law, Dane County DA alleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    Nothing more than tactical delays, while stealthily moving forward in districts for the signing of new contracts that would encompass the next two years.
    Not even stealthily.

    Wisconsin unions rush to get deals in place - U.S. news - Life - msnbc.com

    School boards and local governments across Wisconsin are rushing to reach agreements with unions before a new law takes effect that will remove their ability to collectively bargain over nearly all issues other than minimal salary increases.

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