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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Fed up with a president “who can’t make his mind up” as Libyan rebels are on the brink of defeat, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is looking to the exits. At the tail end of her mission to bolster the Libyan opposition, which has suffered days of losses to Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s forces, Clinton announced that she’s done with Obama after 2012 — even if he wins again.

    “Obviously, she’s not happy with dealing with a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday, who can’t make his mind up,” a Clinton insider told The Daily. “She’s exhausted, tired.” He went on, “If you take a look at what’s on her plate as compared with what’s on the plates of previous Secretary of States — there’s more going on now at this particular moment, and it’s like playing sports with a bunch of amateurs. And she doesn’t have any power. She’s trying to do what she can to keep things from imploding.”

    Clinton is said to be especially peeved with the president’s waffling over how to encourage the kinds of Arab uprisings that have recently toppled regimes in Egypt and Tunisia, and in particular his refusal to back a no-fly zone over Libya.

    In the past week, former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton’s former top adviser Anne-Marie Slaughter lashed out at Obama for the same reason.

    Obama himself made light of her strong feelings for supporting the opposition in a speech last week at the Gridiron Club Dinner, an annual gathering that traditionally features a stand-up comedy act by the president. “I’ve dispatched Hillary to the Middle East to talk about how these countries can transition to new leaders — though, I’ve got to be honest, she’s gotten a little passionate about the subject,” Obama said to laughter from the audience. “These past few weeks it’s been tough falling asleep with Hillary out there on Pennsylvania Avenue shouting, throwing rocks at the window.”
    DAILY: Obama’s indecision on Libya has pushed Clinton over the edge InvestmentWatch

    you should open the link and read the rest, it rings true

    especially after all the in-your-face, totally unprofessional drama surrounding the ends of stanley mcchrystal, dennis blair and jim jones

    and pj crowley, "hillary's spokesman"

    the foreign policy she oversaw for 2 years and continues to run IS totally amateur---from china (currency, climate, human rights) to iran (when's he gonna talk to the leaders without preconditions) to the cartels (not even a talking point) to the palestinian peace talks (hi profile belly flop)...

    hillary is the face of THIS foggy bottom, she needed to get OUT a long time ago

    party on, peeps

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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This does not bode well... not well at all. The Libyans rebels don't really want interference, seeing as how they went so far as to capture SAS troops and have said that they don't want to be seen as US stooges, please look here as well.
    Well they should of thought about that before they decided to live on top of all that oil. Duh.
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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

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    1.The widespread unemployment and poverty you see are caused by the economic crisis, which in turned was caused by the deregulation of the economy which started with Regan and continued with Bush. This leads to economic anarchy, where banksters are able to play Russian Roulette with everyone else’s money and when they get in trouble, they just have the politicians, whom they finance to bail them out using public money.
    I've asked this before, and so far no one has been able to find it, can you please supply links to what exactly what Bush deregulated.

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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    And, though it may be coming late, I couldn't be happier that it is highly likely that the U.S. Will be playing a subordinate role. It is high time that others started stepping up.
    Yeah, and after they **** things up 9 ways from Sunday, you'll be wishing the U.S. had taken the lead role.

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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I've asked this before, and so far no one has been able to find it, can you please supply links to what exactly what Bush deregulated.
    No, you're right. George W. didn't deregulate anything (that I'm readily aware of) concerning the financial sector. But then he didn't need to, as the damage had been done with Reagan, Bush Sr. and Clinton. The financial meltdown was truly a bipartisan effort.

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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya - FoxNews.com



    If we go into Libya, I wonder if the 'no blood for oil' people will come out and protest, hanging Obama in effigy, burning his photo, calling him Hitler, etc., like they did for Bush? I think not.

    Also, if the Obama administration goes into Libya without UN authorization, what will the general reaction be here in the states?
    Obama, that ****ing warmonger.....where the hell is his congressional declaration of war? Hmmm?????? Where the **** is it?
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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    ???? What the hell are you talking about? Everyone here knows what he was saying. wow...open a window and get some air.
    He said he wasn't talking about what everyone here knows he was talking about.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian
    I was comparing the reactions of the masses between what happened when Bush went into Iraq, and what might happen if Obama goes into Libya... not the conflicts themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    So the usefulness and meaningfulness of your comparison of Iraq and Libya comes from the fact that the situations are so different?

    I will now compare the reactions of the masses between what happened when the coal miners were rescued in South America and what might happen if the Japanese reactor has a total meltdown.

    If Japanese reactor has a total meltdown, I wonder if the people who cheered the rescue of the miners will come out and and celebrate with hugs and kisses and champagne like they did when the miners were rescued? I think not.
    You kinda suck at this, don't you :

    My comparison: reactions of the same group of people after a President gets them involved in an armed conflict.

    Your comparison: reactions of different groups after a negative outcome occurrence and a happy positive outcome occurrence.
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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    It's 10:30 PM, WHERE THE **** IS THE DECLARATION OF WAR???? If Obama goes to battle without one, I'm going to insist on impeachment.
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    Re: U.S. Seeks UN Resolution Authorizing Strikes on Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's 10:30 PM, WHERE THE **** IS THE DECLARATION OF WAR???? If Obama goes to battle without one, I'm going to insist on impeachment.
    better hope Congress gets off their asses then.
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