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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Once upon a time that copyright stuff was a civil matter, iirc. How did the gov get snookered into take care of that stuff? Let Warner Bros pay for their own court costs.

    When Disney lobbied to extend copyrights way back when, nobody thought it would have evolved overall to something so absurd.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    A Federal FELONY? To download a movie, especially when you may or may not know whether the site has legal rights to offer it?

    Holy crap. Bit harsh.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Goshin, I think its aimed more at the person who would be offering the movie than you for downloading it, but I may be incorrect.

    That said, the fact you could get a federal felony for streaming a Washington Redskins game so that your friends who live in San Francisco can possibly watch it when their cable provider doesn't show the game is ridiculous. Yes, it may be cutting into the pocket books of the NFL an DirectTV by theoritically causing you not to buy the Sunday Ticket (which there's no gaurantee without the streams you'd do that anyways), but not in any fashion that a felony would be appropriate punishment.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We got a problem with out borders but they want to wiretap copyright violators.


    White House wants new copyright law crackdown | Privacy Inc. - CNET News
    The White House today proposed sweeping revisions to U.S. copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" of audio or video a federal felony and allowing FBI agents to wiretap suspected infringers.

    In a 20-page white paper (PDF), the Obama administration called on the U.S. Congress to fix "deficiencies that could hinder enforcement" of intellectual property laws.
    The report was prepared by Victoria Espinel, the first Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator who received Senate confirmation in December 2009, and represents a broad tightening of many forms of intellectual property law including ones that deal with counterfeit pharmaceuticals and overseas royalties for copyright holders. (See CNET's report last month previewing today's white paper.)

    Some of the highlights:

    The White House is concerned that "illegal streaming of content" may not be covered by criminal law, saying "questions have arisen about whether streaming constitutes the distribution of copyrighted works." To resolve that ambiguity, it wants a new law to "clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances."

    Read more: White House wants new copyright law crackdown | Privacy Inc. - CNET News
    Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. All this does is make it explicit that streaming copyrighted material is infringement, which it is. The only people that whine are those who don't like copyright law in the first place. This law does nothing new.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If there is nothing I hate more, it's the corporate welfare that goes to IP holders, special laws to protect their precious wares, for a lifetime.

    Now they want to make it a felony for some forms of copyright violation, screw them.
    Caught in the middle are the artists. On one hand, people are stealing their songs without paying for them, which deprives them of their rightly due royalties. And, on the other hand, the RIAA is screwing them, and sucking their blood, like the vultures they are. Is there any way out of this dilemma for those who write the songs? Actually, there is. Nine Inch Nails started the trend, which consists of giving the middle finger to the record companies, and publishing their own content straight to the internet. What they lost in royalties, they more than made up for in their share on increased ticket sales for their concerts, due the exposure their songs gained from being offered free of charge, over the internet. Other artists are joining the bandwagon too.

    So, on one hand, I believe that unauthorized downloading is theft, but on the other hand, I believe that the practices employed by the money grubbing thugs at the RIAA are going to lead to it's eventual downfall.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We got a problem with out borders but they want to wiretap copyright violators.


    White House wants new copyright law crackdown | Privacy Inc. - CNET News
    The White House today proposed sweeping revisions to U.S. copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" of audio or video a federal felony and allowing FBI agents to wiretap suspected infringers.

    In a 20-page white paper (PDF), the Obama administration called on the U.S. Congress to fix "deficiencies that could hinder enforcement" of intellectual property laws.
    The report was prepared by Victoria Espinel, the first Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator who received Senate confirmation in December 2009, and represents a broad tightening of many forms of intellectual property law including ones that deal with counterfeit pharmaceuticals and overseas royalties for copyright holders. (See CNET's report last month previewing today's white paper.)

    Some of the highlights:

    The White House is concerned that "illegal streaming of content" may not be covered by criminal law, saying "questions have arisen about whether streaming constitutes the distribution of copyrighted works." To resolve that ambiguity, it wants a new law to "clarify that infringement by streaming, or by means of other similar new technology, is a felony in appropriate circumstances."

    Read more: White House wants new copyright law crackdown | Privacy Inc. - CNET News
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Goshin, I think its aimed more at the person who would be offering the movie than you for downloading it, but I may be incorrect.

    That said, the fact you could get a federal felony for streaming a Washington Redskins game so that your friends who live in San Francisco can possibly watch it when their cable provider doesn't show the game is ridiculous. Yes, it may be cutting into the pocket books of the NFL an DirectTV by theoritically causing you not to buy the Sunday Ticket (which there's no gaurantee without the streams you'd do that anyways), but not in any fashion that a felony would be appropriate punishment.
    That's a bit silly don't you think? This law isn't about that, and anyways such streaming to your friends might be "fair use" anyways.

    This law is about getting people who infringe hundreds or millions of times.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Caught in the middle are the artists. On one hand, people are stealing their songs without paying for them, which deprives them of their rightly due royalties. And, on the other hand, the RIAA is screwing them, and sucking their blood, like the vultures they are. Is there any way out of this dilemma for those who write the songs? Actually, there is. Nine Inch Nails started the trend, which consists of giving the middle finger to the record companies, and publishing their own content straight to the internet. What they lost in royalties, they more than made up for in their share on increased ticket sales for their concerts, due the exposure their songs gained from being offered free of charge, over the internet. Other artists are joining the bandwagon too.

    So, on one hand, I believe that unauthorized downloading is theft, but on the other hand, I believe that the practices employed by the money grubbing thugs at the RIAA are going to lead to it's eventual downfall.
    No one forces artists to sign with labels. But doing so gives the artists access to millions of dollars worth of money to be used on advertising, studios, tours, etc.

    Its a red-herring to bring up labels.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    All this does is make it explicit that streaming copyrighted material is infringement, which it is.
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    Incorrect - streaming copyright ed content without PERMISSION TO DO SO [outside of using bits and pieces in accordance to fair use] is infringement - and no, this is not a petty game of semantics considering that 1. Everything you make that can be copyrighted is copyrighted from the start here in the 'states, and 2. That would not make sense on the grounds that people get permission to stream other people's content - not as common as illicit content by far, but it still does happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    The only people that whine are those who don't like copyright law in the first place.


    Baseless attacks / generalizations, eh?
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    The media industry can lobby for pretty much anything it wants. The public is ignorant and there is nobody with lobbying power to counter them. There is no way 120 year copyrights could stand up to real scrutiny, but nobody important cares. I think the best hope is that the courts will step up and throw out copyright laws on constitutional grounds.
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