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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Exactly. The problem is not the people stealing stuff, it is the copyright laws that are creating a market for such things, but limiting access to content. Not to mention that copyright laws are different from country to country and like it or not, the Internet has no borders. Take This domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations it helps to stream live sports across the net. The US siezed the domain and yet the service is situated in Spain where it is LEGAL. So what the US did was shut down a fully legal service.. or at least try, since the site can easily be accessed from alternative domains. But the point is, what is there to stop the US from seizing say AL Jazerra.net or the Russian communist party domian? Nothing at the moment, as long as a judge can be convinced in the US.. that is frankly intolerable to say the least. No single country should have such much power over the internet.

    And if we look at the copyright laws themselves, they are so outdated because the content providers refuse to innovate and join the web revolution. They still define rights depending on the country and region, which leads to movies and tv shows and music being released at different times if at all across the world. Of course people will steal stuff if they can because the content providers limit their access to it legally. If there was a global "Hulu" or similar service where people could buy (at a reasonable price) to view or download the newest US tv shows after they have been seen in the US.. it would be HUGELY popular. But the only places they exist is in the US, and some what in the UK (highly limited).

    On top of that the content providers actually contribute to the stealing ironically enough. Most new DVD movies are released in Russia weeks if not months before they are in the US and western Europe, which of course means they are all over the net. Even sometimes before the movies come in the bloody cinema (hello A-Team the movie).
    That was a strangely coherent and well reasoned post. WHo are you, and what have you done with Pete?

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    corrected.
    Funny, you seem to be the only one who has mentioned Bush.

    Jamesrage doesn't even seem to disagree with the idea that this loophole should be closed. He had to resort to "WHY OBAMA NOT DO OTHER THING???" Sad. So very sad.

    Do you or do you not agree that this loophole should be closed?
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It really doesn't matter what Obama does, the righties will find a way to be mad about it...
    It doesn't really matter what Obama does, the Lefties will support him 110%.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Exactly. The problem is not the people stealing stuff, it is the copyright laws that are creating a market for such things, but limiting access to content.
    Bah cant edit for some reason... suppose to be by not but there..
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny, you seem to be the only one who has mentioned Bush.
    It was a general statement, for the entire board... not specific to this thread.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Once upon a time that copyright stuff was a civil matter, iirc. How did the gov get snookered into take care of that stuff? Let Warner Bros pay for their own court costs.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Absolutely ridiculous for this to be a felony.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It really doesn't matter what Obama does, the righties will find a way to be mad about it...
    This has nothing to do with "righties."
    IP corporate welfare is loved by both parties, with almost the same enthusiasm.
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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This has nothing to do with "righties."
    IP corporate welfare is loved by both parties, with almost the same enthusiasm.
    Too true. Around here there are even a lot of so-called libertarians who support IP with the same enthusiasm.

    It is so refreshing to hear somebody else acknowledge copyrights and patents are a form of corporate welfare.

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    Re: White House wants new copyright law crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Too true. Around here there are even a lot of so-called libertarians who support IP with the same enthusiasm.

    It is so refreshing to hear somebody else acknowledge copyrights and patents are a form of corporate welfare.
    IP = The Devil.
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