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    DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    The Drug Enforcement Administration on Tuesday seized the state of Georgia's supply of a key lethal injection drug less than two months after the state executed a man who unsuccessfully argued it was bought from a "fly-by-night" supplier in Britain.
    Yes, states are required to obey the law too, or are they? What about California, with its marijuana dispensaries? I imagine that there are now going to be 2 groups in a quandary over Federal laws:

    1) Those who support marijuana, but are against the death penalty.

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    2) Those who support the death penalty, but are against medical marijuana.

    Damn, it sucks to be them, doesn't it? Not really. They will just continue to say that it's OK in the case they favor, and protest against the other case. Why?........

    ANSWER: Because that's politics - Collections of interests disguised as ideologies.

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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Who gives a damn where the drug is from if it works.

    I do wish we would go back to public hangings and the convict would here: Having found guilty you will be taken from here to a place of execution where at Sunrise tomorrow you will be hanged by the neck until Dead.

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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, states are required to obey the law too, or are they? What about California, with its marijuana dispensaries? I imagine that there are now going to be 2 groups in a quandary over Federal laws:

    1) Those who support marijuana, but are against the death penalty.

    AND

    2) Those who support the death penalty, but are against medical marijuana.

    Damn, it sucks to be them, doesn't it? Not really. They will just continue to say that it's OK in the case they favor, and protest against the other case. Why?........

    ANSWER: Because that's politics - Collections of interests disguised as ideologies.

    Article is here.
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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Who gives a damn where the drug is from if it works.

    I do wish we would go back to public hangings and the convict would here: Having found guilty you will be taken from here to a place of execution where at Sunrise tomorrow you will be hanged by the neck until Dead.
    If it came from the black market, then I don't want it. I could be supporting the Mafia and drug cartels, for all I know.
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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If it came from the black market, then I don't want it. I could be supporting the Mafia and drug cartels, for all I know.
    You don't know.

    This seizure had nothing to do with drug laws or worrying about the source and everything to do with using a flimsy excuse to stymie the use of the DP. It was ALL about politics, and even your thread is political ideology trying to pass off as not.
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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    With sodium thiopental in short supply nationally, Georgia corrections officials ordered the drug from a pharmaceutical distributor in London, England, DeYoung attorney John Bentivoglio wrote in the February 24 letter.
    The state received 50 vials of sodium thiopental in July, Bentivoglio said, citing public records.
    But Bentivoglio said the state was not registered to import the controlled substance and failed to notify DEA about the shipment.
    "I think it raises very troubling questions about the lengths to which they would go to pursue lethal injections when that process requires careful attention to the integrity of the process," Bentivoglio told Reuters on Tuesday.
    U.S. agents seize Georgia execution drug supply - Yahoo! News


    Seriously?


    I say screw the damn injections and just shoot em in the head.
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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    U.S. agents seize Georgia execution drug supply - Yahoo! News


    Seriously?


    I say screw the damn injections and just shoot em in the head.
    Still doesn't make sense to me.

    "less government, small government!"

    "you can't trust government!"

    However, I completely trust government to put people to death and not **** it up,

    Id like to see how happy you'd be on the other end of a rifle after a rushed conviction...

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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Still doesn't make sense to me.

    "less government, small government!"

    "you can't trust government!"

    However, I completely trust government to put people to death and not **** it up,

    Id like to see how happy you'd be on the other end of a rifle after a rushed conviction...
    I love you Jet, but this isn't a discussion about the conviction or evidence, it's a discussion about the methods used to put to death a properly convicted criminal. In this case the State of Georgia is being accused of buying black market drugs and failing to register them with the DEA. One of the claims by the defense attorney's is that the drugs might be past their use and case pain during execution process.

    Seriously?


    As for convictions and government not screwing up....

    We could go round and round and round on that one, but we don't have RUSHED convictions here, we have 10 year waits to put people down. And that's in FAST states. Cali has people that have rotted for 20-30 years tried, convicted.. never executed.

    I don't dismiss legitimate concerns about past mistakes, and believe the older the conviction, the more correct extra scrutiny is. but modern convictions, with DNA and other evidence? No, don't really worry bout those.
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    Re: DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I love you Jet, but this isn't a discussion about the conviction or evidence, it's a discussion about the methods used to put to death a properly convicted criminal. In this case the State of Georgia is being accused of buying black market drugs and failing to register them with the DEA. One of the claims by the defense attorney's is that the drugs might be past their use and case pain during execution process.

    Seriously?


    As for convictions and government not screwing up....

    We could go round and round and round on that one, but we don't have RUSHED convictions here, we have 10 year waits to put people down. And that's in FAST states. Cali has people that have rotted for 20-30 years tried, convicted.. never executed.

    I don't dismiss legitimate concerns about past mistakes, and believe the older the conviction, the more correct extra scrutiny is. but modern convictions, with DNA and other evidence? No, don't really worry bout those.
    DNA isn't the end all be all, you can have some DNA evidence that can't fully constrict who the suspect is. Illinois did a study and had found something like 1/3 of their state killings were people innocent of the charged crime. When the put the moretorium up, they found that about half the people on death row were not guilty of the crime they were sentenced for. They finally did the right thing and ended it. The death penalty consumes innocent life, you can be really careful like CO and not really use the death penalty (we have HUGE restrictions on attempting to get the DP, as a result we have very very few people on death row); but it's best to just not have it. It's no longer a necessity and state sanctioned killing of its own people...not maybe the thing I would like best for government to do.
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