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    Germany to shut down seven nuclear plants for safety review(edited)


    Germany to shut down seven nuclear plants for safety review | AHN

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel announced Tuesday the shutting down of seven of the seventeen nuclear power plants in the country for three months for a safety check of the power facilities.
    I call this a knee jerk because Germany doesn't get bad earthquakes.

    Earthquakes in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    People, we need to keep in mind that this incident happened after the largest earthquake in Japan's history and the 5th largest in recorded history. This isn't an every day thing and the worst that can happen is a melt down. What happens in a melt down?

    Nuclear meltdown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    A nuclear meltdown is an informal term for a severe nuclear reactor accident that results in core damage from overheating. The term is not officially defined by the International Atomic Energy Agency[1] or by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.[2] However, it has been defined to mean the accidental melting of the core of a nuclear reactor,[3] and is in common usage a reference to the core's either complete or partial collapse. "Core melt accident" and "partial core melt" are the analogous technical terms, though the severity of these nuclear accidents can vary in the extreme.
    A meltdown occurs when a severe failure of a nuclear power plant system prevents proper cooling of the reactor core, to the extent that the nuclear fuel assemblies overheat and melt, either partially or completely. A meltdown is considered very serious because of the potential that highly intense radioactive materials with long half-lives and lethal threat could be released into the environment.

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    In a modern reactor, a nuclear meltdown, whether partial or total, should be contained inside the reactor's containment structure. Thus (assuming that no other major disasters occur) while the meltdown will severely damage the reactor itself, possibly contaminating the whole structure with highly radioactive material, a meltdown alone should not lead to significant radiation release or danger to the public.
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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Well I guess it's a comfort to know it's not just America that has an irrational fear of nuclear power generation.


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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    It's like Obama first and foremost sending inspectors to every gulf rig after the Deepwater spill and then shutting down the whole gulf for NOTHING.

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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    They will shut these safe and clean energy plants down till the middle east blows up and/or Russia turns off their supply of natural gas.

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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well I guess it's a comfort to know it's not just America that has an irrational fear of nuclear power generation.


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    I wouldn't call it irrational looking at whats happening with Japan and not wanting the same thing to happen in your own country. I am sure that when they built those things in Japan they said oh no another Chernobyl disaster won't happen because it happened in a **** hole communist country,heck even a 3 mile island incident won't happen. Its like the government asking you to let them put a dangerous bomb in your back yard that could destroy your whole neighborhood, but don't worry about the neighborhoods that used to exist, this bomb has better fail safes to prevent it from going off.
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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I wouldn't call it irrational looking at whats happening with Japan and not wanting the same thing to happen in your own country. I am sure that when they built those things in Japan they said oh no another Chernobyl disaster won't happen because it happened in a **** hole communist country,heck even a 3 mile island incident won't happen. Its like the government asking you to let them put a dangerous bomb in your back yard that could destroy your whole neighborhood, but don't worry about the neighborhoods that used to exist, this bomb has better fail safes to prevent it from going off.
    Another chernobyl wont happen. Nobody was harmed by 3 mile island.

    This is one of the most powerful events we've ever recorded, and the reactor is still intact. The primary containment structure is not breached, and the reactor has two.
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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Another chernobyl wont happen. Nobody was harmed by 3 mile island.
    So you wouldn't mind living next to a nuclear power plant?
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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you wouldn't mind living next to a nuclear power plant?
    Not at all.

    This is one of the most powerful events we've ever recorded, and the reactor's containment is still intact. The primary containment structure is not breached, and the reactor has two.

    A coal power plant literally exposes you to more radiation than a nuclear plant does.
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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    This is getting ridiculous.

    I'm certainly not wanting to downplay the seriousness, but I think a lot of people are equating this to a hydrogen bomb exploding, which is not what is happening here.

    As Deuce said, the containment structure, thus far, has not failed. And even if it does, this is not the same as a nuclear bomb going off, and the likelihood of it happening again is not great, particularly in Germany.

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    Re: Germany's knee jerks

    Last night I saw someone who has been in the nuclear industry for many many years and he said that all the talk of there being a massive melt down and deaths similar to those that took place in Chernobyl is virtually impossible.

    I am not an expert in any way, but i would say that a melt down is a real possibility eveb if it's rare.

    I also know that new technology has come along in the last few years that take this type of incident off the table for new construction.

    We need to be prudent and not reactionary and over react.

    Germany has some plants that are older and might need to be replaced.

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