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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The part where public safety comes into play. That trumps your second amendment right any day of the week. Why do you think you don't own a tank or a small nuclear device?
    It's not illegal to own a tank.

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yes, I believe that,
    Then you are either an idiot or full of ****.


    to you, it doesn't even matter what Obama said.
    Do you have any evidence to support this claim?


    It's just that the person saying it has black skin and is a Dem.
    So you think I am a racists against black people or that the only reason anyone would oppose Obama because he is black(technically half-black)?

    If a conservative purposed the vary same thing, you'd pay it no mind.
    Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I didn't vote for Obama. I didn't vote for McCain. I voted for someone I felt qualified.
    My state weaseled out 3rd party candidates so I just didn't vote for McCain or Obama.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Some of the restrictions you describe go way beyond common sense. Tell me, what makes your arbitrary restrictions to my civil right to an AK any better than Obama's arbitrary restrictions?

    What part of fundamental right do you anti-gun nuts not understand?
    You'd do well not lumping me in with "anti-gun" nuts. I believe that to own an assault rifle or a shotgun that holds an entire magazine of shells one should have a clean criminal record and prove that one knows how to safely operate such weapons. Many states already have blanket bans on them. I do not favor that. All I favor is closing private-sale/gunshow loopholes so that weapons are passed around without a clear paper trail, or background check to assure that minors and felons are not purchasing them.

    If you persist on insulting those who are basically on your side, you will end up alone, sir. Rethink your tone. Please.

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Alrighty, then. No reasonable discussion in here, I see, even for those who support the rights of citizens to own and bear arms. Just a bunch of rabid insulters, waiting for someone to ambush.

    I leave you to it, folks. Continue your march to own howitzers, RPGs and mortars, and to shoot them off from your own suburban backyards, because that's the kind of crazy that I'm getting from the bunch in this thread.

    Crap, y'all don't even recognize anyone whose on your side unless they live in a bunker, with an ammo dump in the backyard.

    I'm out of here.

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    You'd do well not lumping me in with "anti-gun" nuts. I believe that to own an assault rifle or a shotgun that holds an entire magazine of shells one should have a clean criminal record and prove that one knows how to safely operate such weapons. Many states already have blanket bans on them. I do not favor that. All I favor is closing private-sale/gunshow loopholes so that weapons are passed around without a clear paper trail, or background check to assure that minors and felons are not purchasing them.

    If you persist on insulting those who are basically on your side, you will end up alone, sir. Rethink your tone. Please.
    I believe registrations, licenses/permits,bans on certain types of firearms, restrictions of people who served their time behind bars and even back ground checks are unconstitutional since they are infringements on the 2nd amendment. Registrations amount to a precursor to future confiscations and that its non of the governments damn business who owns what weapon. How are you on the side of any one who is a advocate of the 2nd amendment? Second amendment proponents take the 2nd amendment literally when it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Its like saying I am on the side of abortionist and gay marriage proponents even though I oppose legalizing gay marriage/civil unions/domestic partnerships and oppose legalized abortion as a means of birth control.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 03-15-11 at 01:39 AM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Alrighty, then. No reasonable discussion in here, I see, even for those who support the rights of citizens to own and bear arms. Just a bunch of rabid insulters, waiting for someone to ambush.

    I leave you to it, folks. Continue your march to own howitzers, RPGs and mortars, and to shoot them off from your own suburban backyards, because that's the kind of crazy that I'm getting from the bunch in this thread.

    Crap, y'all don't even recognize anyone whose on your side unless they live in a bunker, with an ammo dump in the backyard.

    I'm out of here.
    That was my original point in my first post in this thread. There really isn't much of a gray area regarding the stance on guns. The extremes of both sides are so completely outspoken that the rest of the people get drowned out in the noise. For many, it's either all or nothing.

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Alrighty, then. No reasonable discussion in here, I see, even for those who support the rights of citizens to own and bear arms. Just a bunch of rabid insulters, waiting for someone to ambush.

    I leave you to it, folks. Continue your march to own howitzers, RPGs and mortars, and to shoot them off from your own suburban backyards, because that's the kind of crazy that I'm getting from the bunch in this thread.

    Crap, y'all don't even recognize anyone whose on your side unless they live in a bunker, with an ammo dump in the backyard.

    I'm out of here.
    lol

    Gun control is proceeding on a different cloaked path. It is Obama's aim to assure that non of us have the disposable income available to ever afford that right again.

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    They must have changed over the years. My father was a huge supporter of the NRA and their literature would attack any politician who advocated gun control.
    A lot of 2nd amendment advocates like GOA better than the NRA.

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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Obama eyes 'common sense' US gun control

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    All I favor is closing private-sale/gunshow loopholes so that weapons are passed around without a clear paper trail, or background check to assure that minors and felons are not purchasing them.
    Since when does a fundamental right require a paper trail? What's next, shall we close the loophole that allows law abiding citizens to practice their religions without a permit?

    If you don't want to get called an anti-gun nut, don't act like one. And don't kid yourself, we aren't on the same side in this debate.
    Last edited by Guy Incognito; 03-15-11 at 01:51 AM.

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