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Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspires

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Gray_Fox_86 said:
Why on Earth would any one want to have an affiliation with any religous group? Unless it would lead to advancement in society. These "wannabes" are secretly hoping that eventually they will get to produce a movie.
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You serious?
 
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X Factor said:
Not believing in God is just as much a choice as believing in Him, and it's done on some element of faith because there's no way you can know for sure He doesn't. Obviously, atheism is not a God centered religion, but it is a religion nonetheless. Why is that a troubling proposition?
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It's not a religion but I do agree with you that atheism does involve a form of faith, because there is no way to know that God doesn't exist. Religious people, and atheist have the same type of mindset IMO, they just believe different things. Agnostics are the ones to claim that we don't know.
 
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X Factor said:
Not believing in God is just as much a choice as believing in Him, and it's done on some element of faith because there's no way you can know for sure He doesn't. Obviously, atheism is not a God centered religion, but it is a religion nonetheless. Why is that a troubling proposition?
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Atheism is a religion in the same way that not collecting stamps is a hobby.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
I haven't seen it but I don't entirely agree with Maher's uber-atheist stance so I doubt I'd like it.
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Awful movie. Very Michael Moore-ish.
 
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Iron Yank said:
You are wrong,actually its the other way around, the Koran is full of stuff that puts women down as second class humans. Culturally it isnt always practiced that way. Unfortunatly its more than you'd think.
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Is this all you can come up with, so when was the last time this was commonly practiced?
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In every Evangelical church I've ever come across. In the Catholic church. In Orthodox Jewish circles. The position of women in Judaeo-Christian religious domains has always been subordinate to that of men.

Islamic extremists are taking the Koran quite literally, its the more moderate muslims that dont follow everything it says.
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Which is most sane people's contention. It's only the extremists that interpret the Qur'an (or the Bible's) call to violence and subjugation.

I would of thought that you would of known this?
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I would have thought you would have known how to write English.
 
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Your Star said:
It's not a religion but I do agree with you that atheism does involve a form of faith, because there is no way to know that God doesn't exist. Religious people, and atheist have the same type of mindset IMO, they just believe different things. Agnostics are the ones to claim that we don't know.
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I always felt agnostics were kinda the real cowards. The religious folks embrace it, the atheist embrace it and the agnostics can't make a decision!
 
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MrVicchio said:
I always felt agnostics were kinda the real cowards. The religious folks embrace it, the atheist embrace it and the agnostics can't make a decision!
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Certainty's over-rated. Just look at those on here who are really certain about stuff. I give you apdst, American, The Prof.... you.
 
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MrVicchio said:
I always felt agnostics were kinda the real cowards. The religious folks embrace it, the atheist embrace it and the agnostics can't make a decision!
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How are they cowards? It's not that you have to be either religious, or an atheist, it isn't someone who can't decide between having fish or chicken, it's a whole other choice entirely, one saying that you don't know what is out there. If you think about it, it's kind of humbling.
 
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Your Star said:
How are they cowards? It's not that you have to be either religious, or an atheist, it isn't someone who can't decide between having fish or chicken, it's a whole other choice entirely, one saying that you don't know what is out there. If you think about it, it's kind of humbling.
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Now hun, I was a bit tongue in cheek there, sorry if that didn't quite come across that way.
 
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MrVicchio said:
Now hun, I was a bit tongue in cheek there, sorry if that didn't quite come across that way.
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Sarcasm on the internet is a tough thing to do, thankfully we have these to indicate them ;) Now only if you used them :2razz:
 
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Why does anyone give a **** about Bill Maher's opinion?
 
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Whovian said:
Why does anyone give a **** about Bill Maher's opinion?
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The same reason you give when we ask why we should care about your favorite TV personality, but no we shouldnt care
 
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Your Star said:
It's made by a liberal.
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If by that you mean, it takes half truths and presents them as fact, you are correct. If by that you mean, it takes the most insipid people that can be found to speak for a religion, and presents them as typical, you are correct. Do all liberals make movies this way?
 
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X Factor said:
I'm going to demand they prove God doesn't exist, just as I've been challenged to prove He does.
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Starting the debate by openly engaging in the fallacy of demanding negative proof is not a very good idea. Just sayin'.
 
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Wiseone said:
The same reason you give when we ask why we should care about your favorite TV personality, but no we shouldnt care
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Who is my favorite tv personality, and why should we give a **** about THEIR opinion?
 
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Whovian said:
Who is my favorite tv personality, and why should we give a **** about THEIR opinion?
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Aren't you one of those who posts a lot of Beck topics? Maybe I have you confused.
 
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Wiseone said:
Aren't you one of those who posts a lot of Beck topics? Maybe I have you confused.
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you're confused. Sorry. I may defend him in threads from time to time, mostly to piss off PB and the like, but I think I may have started 1... maybe 2 Beck threads since I joined.
 
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Whovian said:
Why does anyone give a **** about Bill Maher's opinion?
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Well I do. He isnt to far off it seems. Then again the bible doesnt seem to be to much better...... a lot less explosives though. Whats with your Sleestack [sp] thing you got going on??
 
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MrVicchio said:
I always felt agnostics were kinda the real cowards. The religious folks embrace it, the atheist embrace it and the agnostics can't make a decision!
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It's actually a sign of humility to admit you know nothing about something which you truly know nothing about. Nobody KNOWS FOR A FACT if a God, or gods, exist, and nobody KNOWS for a fact that He, or they, don't. I'm not an agnostic, but agnosticism is simply the admission that you truly know nothing about something that which is impossible to truly know.
 
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Gray_Fox_86 said:
And to top that off, he is Jewish. So he would never hurt his own religion. Even though he claims he does not follow his religion. His religion got him to where he is today.
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His mother was/is(?) Jewish but it was never his religion. He was raised Catholic.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
It's actually a sign of humility to admit you know nothing about something which you truly know nothing about. Nobody KNOWS FOR A FACT if a God, or gods, exist, and nobody KNOWS for a fact that He, or they, don't. I'm not an agnostic, but agnosticism is simply the admission that you truly know nothing about something that which is impossible to truly know.
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Depends.

Everyone is agnostic to a degree, I would agree with that.

But people use it as a fence-sitting position more than anything, so as not to offend. There is something to say for that, I suppose.

My experience with most atheists is that they almost believe that they themselves are God-like. There's a condescension about them toward everyone, as if they operate on a higher plane then the rest of us. And the thought of a being above them is almost insulting to them.

Bill Maher is a prime example. He talks down to everyone. He sees himself as superior to the rest of us.
 
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But people use it as a fence-sitting position more than anything, so as not to offend. There is something to say for that, I suppose.
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For most agnostics, I don't think it's a fence-sitting position for the purpose of not offending. It's simply that they don't possess a strong conviction either way, so they don't really care and are content with being agnostic.

My experience with most atheists is that they almost believe that they themselves are God-like. There's a condescension about them toward everyone, as if they operate on a higher plane then the rest of us. And the thought of a being above them is almost insulting to them.

Bill Maher is a prime example. He talks down to everyone. He sees himself as superior to the rest of us.
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I feel the same way about Maher's uber-atheism. Not all atheists are like him however. I still feel that atheism isn't a religion in the same sense that many world religions are, but I'm at school now so I will elaborate on those thoughts later in another post.
 
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