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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There are those atheists who go beyond this, and have an actual faith that their is a god, and preach it high and wide. I think of that type as religious atheists.
    I'm pretty sure they don't believe that there is a god.
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I always felt agnostics were kinda the real cowards. The religious folks embrace it, the atheist embrace it and the agnostics can't make a decision!
    I don't have a problem with agnostics... Some of them are really smart and are open to all religions... study all holy books, and ask questions whereas most religious people just believe everything they were told and taught to believe. They don't pretend to know everything, they'll admit they don't. It's not a cowardly position, it's an honest position...
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Now hun, I was a bit tongue in cheek there, sorry if that didn't quite come across that way.
    Ohhhh... sarcasm.....



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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Judaism is definitely a religion... and it's also an ethnicity. There is a common ancestry from ancient people... My boyfriend is Jewish, but he is Mizrahi so he looks middle eastern. I don't think he looks Arab though. He looks different than Arabs, but he still looks like he is from the middle east... His family was in Egypt for a long time (you know, the Exodus and all that), but he still knows which son of Jacob his family is from (12 Tribes of Israel). German Jews are usually Ashkenazi, then you have all kinds of ethnic groups within the Hebrew people, but they probably look more diverse today because they lived and reproduced with people in Europe, southern Europe, Asia, etc. However, they carry a common genome. I believe it's known as "J" and I know it's been mapped, when scientists mapped the human genome (I am a geek).

    I also know that Jewish people practice the religion differently and have different customs depending if they are Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi, etc.

    But I still think his comment was stupid... it is a religion and when you talk about race and ethnicity, it does get muddled and a little hard to understand.. maybe subjective, but I think genes and genetic disposition are not subjective. If the genome can be traced, and the blood can be tested for it (no matter what color your skin is) then it's an ethnic group by some definition...
    I may be wrong, but I believe for the most part Mizrahim and Sephardim practice Judaism in pretty similar ways, with the same customs/rites/rituals, etc.
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Scumbag alert, divide and conquer CIA cointelpro tactic ...Maher come on homey!

    Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspires terrorism


    "On Friday, Minnesota Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison appeared on “Real Time with Bill Maher.” Maher told Ellison, who is a Muslim, that the Quran was a “hate-filled holy book” that inspired terrorism."


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    Maher is a anti-religious bigot.He is one of those liberals that probably runs around saying we must be tolerant and be accepting of others when it comes to gays/trannys but probably turns around and bashes religion like a lot of liberals do. He would probably say the same thing about any religious book. So being surprised he said something like that about the koran would be like being surprised a fat person ate donuts.


    That said at least he is equal opportunity religious basher. Some conservative talk show hosts say the same thing about the Koran but give Christianity and Judaism a free pass and a lot liberal talk show hosts say the same thing about the bible and give Muslims a pass.
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Maher is a anti-religious bigot.He is one of those liberals that probably runs around saying we must be tolerant and be accepting of others when it comes to gays/trannys but probably turns around and bashes religion like a lot of liberals do. He would probably say the same thing about any religious book. So being surprised he said something like that about the koran would be like being surprised a fat person ate donuts.


    That said at least he is equal opportunity religious basher. Some conservative talk show hosts say the same thing about the Koran but give Christianity and Judaism a free pass and a lot liberal talk show hosts say the same thing about the bible and give Muslims a pass.
    Definitely. Maher doesn't pull punches on any religion. He sees all of them as a bunch of brainwashing cults.
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Starting the debate by openly engaging in the fallacy of demanding negative proof is not a very good idea. Just sayin'.
    You beat me to it.

    Most atheists I know simply don't see any evidence for the existence of a god. I can ask you if you believe in an invisible pink unicorn. But if you say no that doesn't mean that you "believe" there isn't one.

    Lack of belief doesn't require belief.

    As for the actual subject matter, Maher is a bit nutty, but he is pretty damn funny at times. At least he had the balls to stick to his beliefs and not pull punches depending on the religion.

    For those in the thread arguing Christianity vs. Islam as far as violence or bigotry or such, if read literally both are absolutely terrifying and disgusting from a moral standpoint. Everything from genocide to the enslavement and rape of an entire population, to killing 42 children with bears because they made fun of your bald spot. That Elisha, he sure was sensitive.
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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Depends entirely on the atheist and the level of faith and effort you put into it.
    -shrugs- as it does with any other religion

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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post

    For those in the thread arguing Christianity vs. Islam as far as violence or bigotry or such, if read literally both are absolutely terrifying and disgusting from a moral standpoint. Everything from genocide to the enslavement and rape of an entire population, to killing 42 children with bears because they made fun of your bald spot. That Elisha, he sure was sensitive.
    If you can point to a New Testament in Islam, perhaps this point has merit. Now, not so much. Elisha was a Christian like Maher is a Muslim.

    There is no moral equivalence. One religion compels death to infidels, one compels love thy neighbor.

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    Re: Bill Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspire

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Gein View Post
    If you can point to a New Testament in Islam, perhaps this point has merit. Now, not so much. Elisha was a Christian like Maher is a Muslim.

    There is no moral equivalence. One religion compels death to infidels, one compels love thy neighbor.
    I see, so you are repudiating the Old Testament, rejecting it from the Christian faith. Got it. I can see the headline: "Christians say: Old Testament, Old Tosh!"
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