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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    the slave goes on to be a wealthy business man and famous philanthropist. It's a triumph of will.
    Well, now you've gone and ruined the end. I can only imagine the amount of government assistance that was needed to make that occur. Did they portray that in the movie?

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I understand the intent of the exercise. It was, of course, to display one of the dehumanizing aspects of slavery. I did a similar lesson with 11th grade U.S. history students a few years ago. There were no black students and only one white student in the class, so race wasn't an issue. I also think 11th grade students are generally more mature than fifth grade students. I think the primary mistake was doing this with fifth graders. There will ALWAYS be parents who simply don't understand and will overreact. Unfortunately, they are often the ones who run the asylum...
    What do you mean there were no race issues?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

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    What do you mean there were no race issues?
    He means there were no black students in his class so the racial issue didn't come up, as it did in this case.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    He means there were no black students in his class so the racial issue didn't come up, as it did in this case.
    Looks like you've become my official translater. So only black students can be offended.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Looks like you've become my official translater. So only black students can be offended.
    What it comes to slavery... I'd say 99.9% yes...

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    that complaining kid actually seems to have benefited from the lesson
    he felt demeaned. exploited
    he got it

    unfortunately, his mom didn't
    and it appears many of us did not
    aren't we trying to move toward a color blind society where one's color is not determinative
    to have selected this kid to be in the half of the class playing the role of slave only because he is african American would have been racially discriminatory
    EXCLUDING this kid from being in the half of the class playing the role of slave only because he is african American would have been racially discriminatory

    the teacher got it right
    the school revealed its willingness to make decisions based on race
    as have a great number of our forum members
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    I see nothing wrong with the lesson at all. The school took the politically expedient route and threw the teacher under the bus. Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. Good lesson.

    Edit: Maybe the only "fair" way to teach this lesson was to have everyone in class experience what it was like to be a slave...in other words, first one group are slaves; then that same group becomes masters. After reflection, this is probably the only way to do it...
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    What it comes to slavery... I'd say 99.9% yes...
    So ludahai was teaching a class on slavery?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that complaining kid actually seems to have benefited from the lesson
    he felt demeaned. exploited
    he got it


    unfortunately, his mom didn't
    and it appears many of us did not
    aren't we trying to move toward a color blind society where one's color is not determinative
    to have selected this kid to be in the half of the class playing the role of slave only because he is african American would have been racially discriminatory
    EXCLUDING this kid from being in the half of the class playing the role of slave only because he is african American would have been racially discriminatory

    the teacher got it right
    the school revealed its willingness to make decisions based on race
    as have a great number of our forum members
    And, if we have complete success, he'll go through the rest of his life with a chip on his shoulder.

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