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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I also think that 10 years old is a bit young to manage a lesson like this, but if the students were randomized, the complaining about this is ridiculous. It's like a comedian telling an ethnic joke at a comedy club and a few people becoming offended. Context, people.
    I agree. what I find odd is that just the other day, there were people arguing that kids even younger (6-7) were old enough to manage a lesson on homosexuality, which is at least as difficult a topic.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    WTF? Why the hell is slavery such a touchy subject??? It ended, it's over. None of us were slaves. Some people act like slavery ended yesterday, give me a break!

    So the kids were "role playing" slaves and master, and for this the teacher (following school methods) should be fired?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I also think that 10 years old is a bit young to manage a lesson like this, but if the students were randomized, the complaining about this is ridiculous. It's like a comedian telling an ethnic joke at a comedy club and a few people becoming offended. Context, people.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    WTF? Why the hell is slavery such a touchy subject??? It ended, it's over. None of us were slaves. Some people act like slavery ended yesterday, give me a break!

    So the kids were "role playing" slaves and master, and for this the teacher (following school methods) should be fired?
    Because, we're still ****ed up from slavery. Haven't you heard?

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Context is being one of two AA kids in a class about slavery.
    So, what is the number of AA kids that must be in a classroom before slavery can be broached?

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    We watched that in middle school. It was and is an amazing work, and would be MUCH better than having somethign like this happen. WTF was the teacher thinking?
    I had to watch roots in jr high. I learned nothing from it. Hated the movie, was very disinterested, and couldn't really tell you what it was aabout after wasting a few days pretending to watch the silly thing.

    I think taking part in this kind of activity would have taught me much more. Luckily we had no black kids in my jr.high - so I guess we could have gotten away with it. Now, there were a few black kids in my HS. So, I guess at that time we it would have been taboo. Shrug.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    WTF? Why the hell is slavery such a touchy subject??? It ended, it's over. None of us were slaves. Some people act like slavery ended yesterday, give me a break!

    So the kids were "role playing" slaves and master, and for this the teacher (following school methods) should be fired?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I had to watch roots in jr high. I learned nothing from it. Hated the movie, was very disinterested, and couldn't really tell you what it was aabout after wasting a few days pretending to watch the silly thing.

    I think taking part in this kind of activity would have taught me much more. Luckily we had no black kids in my jr.high - so I guess we could have gotten away with it. Now, there were a few black kids in my HS. So, I guess at that time we it would have been taboo. Shrug.
    It taught me a great deal, especially in regards to Historiography. It came at a time where there had been just enough emphasis on the African American slave family that was being reevaluated by historians following the American Civil Rights Movement. There was a new found..well, again, emphasis, on the notion that the slavery institution, while immensely overpowering, could not quite stomp out entirely the will of individuals and families from doing what is possible to survive and stay connected. So you would begin to see writers focusing on the times where slaves would be trying to negotiate or maneuver through the institution in whatever way they could to protect themselves or even get the tiniest scraps of what we value in human existence.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I had to watch roots in jr high. I learned nothing from it. Hated the movie, was very disinterested, and couldn't really tell you what it was aabout after wasting a few days pretending to watch the silly thing.

    I think taking part in this kind of activity would have taught me much more. Luckily we had no black kids in my jr.high - so I guess we could have gotten away with it. Now, there were a few black kids in my HS. So, I guess at that time we it would have been taboo. Shrug.
    Wow. Roots was great. I haven't read the book but I plan on doing so. Don't know how anyone could possibly think it's "silly," it was and is a work of art. Even the fact that OJ was innit didn't detract from it..
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It taught me a great deal, especially in regards to Historiography. It came at a time where there had been just enough emphasis on the African American slave family that was being reevaluated by historians following the American Civil Rights Movement. There was a new found..well, again, emphasis, on the notion that the slavery institution, while immensely overpowering, could not quite stomp out entirely the will of individuals and families from doing what is possible to survive and stay connected. So you would begin to see writers focusing on the times where slaves would be trying to negotiate or maneuver through the institution in whatever way they could to protect themselves or even get the tiniest scraps of what we value in human existence.
    It really is one of those things where if I watched it now, I might like it. But, I was never one that liked being told what I had to do something. For example, In HS we had to read catcher in the rye. I was a big reader at the time (Tolstoy, King, few others), but refused to read that book and pretty much any others that were assigned to us. Failed that portion of the class, obviously. However, after HS, I I was bored one day, decided to pick it up, and absolutely loved it. I've read it a few times since then.

    Anyway, I would have learned a bit from the role playing lesson, I really do believe.

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