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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    If I were doing this, I wouldn't choose a student who I knew wasn't going to understand the point of his/her role. If the student just thought he/she was being humiliated instead of helping the class understand a very important part of our history, I would choose someone else.

    Was this student "humiliated"?
    Humiliated enough to demand an apology from the teacher, apparently. I honestly don't see the value in role-playing something like this as there are other teaching tools available, but if the kid had a problem with it he should have made it known right then and there instead of making the teacher/school go through this bull**** after the fact.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

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    What do you mean there were no race issues?
    No one was about to create any problems over race in the classroom...
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how is teaching students about the history of our nation - including the negative aspects - found to be an experiment
    There is nothing wrong with teaching about slavery, as long as it's accurate and complete. Since the first slaves brought to America were white, the white kids can play the white slaves, right? The black kids can play the black slaves, and asians can play asian slaves.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Humiliated enough to demand an apology from the teacher, apparently. I honestly don't see the value in role-playing something like this as there are other teaching tools available, but if the kid had a problem with it he should have made it known right then and there instead of making the teacher/school go through this bull**** after the fact.
    I don't think that the role-playing exercise was a big deal and was probably a great teaching tool.

    However, regarding your last comment, the kid was 10. So, i'm not sure that's fair to think he should have done somethign about it right there and then.

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

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    So ludahai was teaching a class on slavery?
    U.S. History and yes, I was teaching about the impact of slavery on families and the dehumanizing aspect of slave auctions in the 1830s
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Humiliated enough to demand an apology from the teacher, apparently. I honestly don't see the value in role-playing something like this as there are other teaching tools available, but if the kid had a problem with it he should have made it known right then and there instead of making the teacher/school go through this bull**** after the fact.
    because 10 year olds are confident enough to tell a teacher they would feel humiliated? no, this is on the teacher.

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I don't think that the role-playing exercise was a big deal and was probably a great teaching tool.

    However, regarding your last comment, the kid was 10. So, i'm not sure that's fair to think he should have done somethign about it right there and then.
    The last line of the story in the link stated that the kid wanted an apology with the teacher. It just makes me wonder why he didn't bring it up in the classroom first rather than the press. 10-year-olds are certainly old enough to tell teachers they're uncomfortable with something when they have a problem.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    because 10 year olds are confident enough to tell a teacher they would feel humiliated? no, this is on the teacher.
    Seems like some of you take a very dim view of the abilities of a 10 yr old...lol. Really, how much courage does it really take to say "Miss _____, i think I wanna sit this one out?"
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The last line of the story in the link stated that the kid wanted an apology with the teacher. It just makes me wonder why he didn't bring it up in the classroom first rather than the press. 10-year-olds are certainly old enough to tell teachers they're uncomfortable with something when they have a problem.
    It really depends on the kid, SB. Some kids are very shy and are afraid to talk to their teachers. There aren't many really confident 10 year olds who will stand up to a teacher and tell her she was wrong.


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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Looks like you've become my official translater. So only black students can be offended.
    Only black students have the potential to be offended, as well as their parents apparently.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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