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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Candice Lynn View Post
    Whites owned slaves and Blacks owned slaves. Sometimes I think people are just so damn foolish with this that they loose all common sense. The teacher was teaching. Some don't do that much. And BTW, it isn't the first time her lesson has been tought like this. First: find out how many years has she been in service and how many times this lesson has been used. Then you'll know if this is a knee jerk reaction.
    i don't believe it matters how many times she did it, it's still inappropriate, imo. i don't believe she did this with malice, just a wee bit of
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you can certainly TEACH them......but WHY by re-enacting something that makes a student feel humiliated? stupid.
    i could talk to you about playing a guitar, but that would not be the same as experiencing trying to play one

    similarly, i could discuss with you about the aspects of playing the game of baseball. but until you got on the field and actually attempted to execute the activities required of a baseball position you would not really understand what was conveyed verbally

    hopefully, you don't receive a drivers license simply by studying the rules of the road, passing the written test of your knowledge of those rules, without also actually driving a vehicle

    none of us want to be on an airplane piloted by someone who has been lectured to about piloting requirements but has never actually flown a plane

    finally to my point. sometimes, a verbal lecture without actual experience is insufficient for the one listening to actually 'get' it. probably a major reason why we have chemistry and biology labs in school instead of simply chemistry and biology lecture halls
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Some estimate there are still 27 million slaves in the world today.

    Care to guess where the preponderance of the slave trade lies?

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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I am not sure whether or not you are being obtuse intentionally here, but it is the manner of the teaching experiment that is in question here and not the fact slavery is being taught. There are appropriate ways to teach 10 year old as well as inappropriate and since 10 year olds are so inquisitive by nature, a more perceptive teacher would not have needed something so heavy handed.
    then you tell me. who was actually "hurt" by this lesson?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Candice Lynn View Post
    "but it is the manner of the teaching experiment that is in question here and not the fact slavery is being taught"

    Oh Puleeeeeze!!
    please what? are you saying that people believe slavery shouldn't be taught?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Candice Lynn View Post
    "but it is the manner of the teaching experiment that is in question here and not the fact slavery is being taught"

    Oh Puleeeeeze!!
    Was there something you did not understand about my comment, oh very new poster?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Damn right!!! Schools are for teaching kids how to think, not what to think.
    by this post, it appears you have changed your opinion and have decided that allowing the kids to be participative, to first hand experience the actions of a slave owner, or those of a slave, is a good thing. that telling them what they should believe about slavery is inadequate by comparison

    the cited story proves this

    the black kid fell the humiliation of being subjected to slavery. apparently in a way he did not before. why is that a bad thing?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then you tell me. who was actually "hurt" by this lesson?
    Only if you tell me why you are creating such silly straw men?
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Only if you tell me why you are creating such silly straw men?
    then being without an ability to identify with any 'hurt' inflicted upon the students, you acknowledge there was not damage inflicted by the teaching of the lesson in this manner
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    Re: Bad lesson? Ohio elementary school in trouble after black student made to play sl

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK... I have a few questions. When the classroom was divided into "slaves" and "masters" was race taken into consideration? Were there blacks and whites on both sides? If this is the case, though somewhat insensitive, I do NOT see this as a racial issue and I'm not sure what the big deal is. For example, I know a lot of schools, when studying WWII, do "mock" Holocaust lessons, where classrooms are divided into "Nazi's" and "Jews". It gives students a feeling of what it was like and how easily power could corrupt (similar to the Stanford Prison Experiment). Should Jewish students be prevented from playing "Jews"? No, though a bit insensitive, if explained appropriately, I don't see a problem with this.
    I agree with this. If the lesson had all the black kids as slaves and all the white kids as masters - yeah, the teacher should be fired. If not, what's the problem?

    In high school we did a concentration camp reenactment. Our entire class were Jews and the older kids were the German soldiers. We walked around the school in a line, all the time being screamed at in German. When we got to the "camp", we were divided into groups and some were sent off to "shower", others were made to work and I believe someone was "shot" in the back as he tried to run away. It was pretty emotional. I'll never forget it.
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