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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    YES THEY DO. They have hundreds of fighters and transport aircraft. These are not African countries. These are rich and former sustained Soviet satellites. They have enough aircraft
    for logistics, etc. Let them do it.
    For some reason that sentence doesn't make all that much sense to me.

    And I was referring to $$$$$ more than anything else.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    For some reason that sentence doesn't make all that much sense to me.

    And I was referring to $$$$$ more than anything else.
    For some reason I think you are right. Is that frightening?

    What I am saying is that they have money. And everything associated necessary to carry out the action requiered to use against Gaddafi.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    For some reason I think you are right. Is that frightening?

    What I am saying is that they have money. And everything associated necessary to carry out the action requiered to use against Gaddafi.
    I respectfully disagree, and I think that if people end up thinking that a no-fly zone MUST be implemented, then the West is best suited to take the lead, with perhaps the League and the African Union contributing some forces.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I respectfully disagree, and I think that if people end up thinking that a no-fly zone MUST be implemented, then the West is best suited to take the lead, with perhaps the League and the African Union contributing some forces.
    Define 'the west'. China can do it. Russia can do it. England can do it. France can do it. Saudi Arabia has enough fighters; they can do it. We dont have to do it, nor should we, and frankly I think its high time others put their money and lives where their mouth is. This is a 'civil war.' We may not like one or even both sides. There is no merit in jumping in feet first into something that is guaranteed to splatter on us.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Define 'the west'.
    NATO and the EU.

    China can do it. Russia can do it.
    But they won't.

    We dont have to do it, nor should we, and frankly I think its high time others put their money and lives where their mouth is. This is a 'civil war.' We may not like one or even both sides. There is no merit in jumping in feet first into something that is guaranteed to splatter on us.
    I don't disagree. My statement was not meant to be a ringing endorsement of an NFZ, just my personal opinion that if it were to be properly implemented and someone decided that it HAD to be done, Western nations should take the lead, and frankly our military has the best resources to do so in conjunction with other nations.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, but we've seen what happens when we start out with, "a handful of trainers". Not saying I oppose it, entirely; just pointing out where a handful of trainers, historically, has led us.

    If we're going to do that, I suggest we hire some privateers to go in and train the rebels, so then we'll have some pluasible deniability.
    IMO, that's definitely a legitimate concern. In any case, I do not favor direct U.S. military intervention. The U.S. interests at stake are not sufficient to justify such a response.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    NATO and the EU.
    But they won't.I don't disagree. My statement was not meant to be a ringing endorsement of an NFZ, just my personal opinion that if it were to be properly implemented and someone decided that it HAD to be done, Western nations should take the lead, and frankly our military has the best resources to do so in conjunction with other nations.
    Just so long as the west doesnt end up meaning US...Im fine with that. And if they wont...well..THATS what the presidents bully pulpit is for. He cant make them...but he ought to be raising the roof about THEIR inactivity...not setting the example OF inactivity.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just so long as the west doesnt end up meaning US...Im fine with that. And if they wont...well..THATS what the presidents bully pulpit is for. He cant make them...but he ought to be raising the roof about THEIR inactivity...not setting the example OF inactivity.
    Well the US is included within NATO. Frankly I think any endeavor in this case should be multilateral, but I respect your opinion that we should completely stay out of it.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well the US is included within NATO. Frankly I think any endeavor in this case should be multilateral, but I respect your opinion that we should completely stay out of it.
    It hardly matters anymore. Libya will end the rebellion in short order and I'd just about bet the UN will restore them their spot on the Human Rights counsel by years end.

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    Re: Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya

    Color me unsurprised and unimpressed. Everyone agrees that enforcing a "no fly zone" over Libya is a good idea. Then they stand there, looking around for someone to actually do it.

    No one will.

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