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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Hey, I've seen a five foot nothing lady (not a cop though) beat the ever loving crap out of a guy that was 6' 5". Don't knock the lady just because of her height. Height means jack squat in a fight. As the littlest guy growing up in school trust me, I know this fact very well.
    BS. The woman is lucky to be alive. Her skills didn't help her.

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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Gein View Post
    BS. The woman is lucky to be alive. Her skills didn't help her.
    So, you think that just because one small woman dang near died that ALL small people are in the same boat? Did you know that Bruce lee was only 5' 7"? Small guy...yet could have kicked anybodies butt no matter thier size. And then theres Venessa Porto at 5' 5" who is a MMA champion.
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    As if a written test in any way determines whether one is qualified to be a police officer anyway.
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Tests have more than one purpose. Another purpose other than establishing qualification is to get the number of potential hires down to a manageable number for selection.
    Based on...who is most competent and qualified to do the job.

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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As if a written test in any way determines whether one is qualified to be a police officer anyway.
    It certainly is part and parcel to determining that. If a police officer doesn't know the law then how can he/she uphold the law? How are you going to know if they know the law without giving them a test?
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As if a written test in any way determines whether one is qualified to be a police officer anyway.
    Yeah...I mene...its not like thay haf to lern them laws and stuff...

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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As if a written test in any way determines whether one is qualified to be a police officer anyway.
    Written tests have everything to do with being a police officer....from psychological evaluations -- to reading/writing comprehension -- to evaluating one's pure common sense. Police officers should be communication experts in every media.
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As if a written test in any way determines whether one is qualified to be a police officer anyway.
    Deuce...

    you don't find it at ALL insulting to black people, nay racist as hell to say "Lower your standards" because not enough blacks aren't passing the test?

    Every black officer that joins after this will be judged negatively by his peers now. And yes, written tests do matter.
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Deuce...

    you don't find it at ALL insulting to black people, nay racist as hell to say "Lower your standards" because not enough blacks aren't passing the test?

    Every black officer that joins after this will be judged negatively by his peers now. And yes, written tests do matter.
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    Re: Dayton Police Department Ordered to Lower Standards to Hire More Blacks

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    If only 1 out of 1000 teachers is fired, maybe they don't deserve to be fired.

    Waiting for Superman had a lot of biases in it - bias in favor of charter schools (which btw, do not perform better than public schools) and bias against tenure (which, btw does not not affect student performance).

    Everybody keeps posting this article in front of me, but no one has shown any evidence that they have seriously analyzed the education system and seriously considered the opinions of those who disagree with them. I have examined both sides and I have come to a conclusion.

    The Nike comment:
    1. Most stupidest isn't the proper grammatical phrase. It is 'most stupid'.
    2. If a Nike salesmen sells you a crappy shoe (I mean quality wise), it's not his fault. The higher ups determine the material and quality of their shoe; he is in no position to make those decisions. It is the same with teachers. They teach what their bosses tell them to teach, they do not determine the policies. In both cases, some salesman or teacher might get drunk during their shifts and should be fired (which is why reforming tenure is good for the latter), but they cannot be blamed for the products that they're selling,
    Absolutely no reason public school teachers should have tenure. It merely encourages sloth and arrogance.

    Do cops have tenure? Nope.

    How about doctors? Nope.

    Are firement tenured? Nope.

    Janitors don't have tenure, either.

    What makes teachers exempt from the same job performance improving incentive the rest of society faces daily?

    Given that what Mayor Snorkum assumes from the OP are high school graduates taking an entrance exam, one can only ask how the high schools can justify granting diplomas to such students.

    While the problems are multiple, there are several that stand out.

    Diplomas are given out, not earned. Today's standards are "do the time, get the prize." Students must once again begin earning diplomas, and those diplomas must represent a level of knowledge compatible with entrance into, and let's fact the truth, a career path that's never been famous for intellectual prowess.

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