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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    I think the main reason to be in Afghanistan now is because of the screwed up situation in Pakistan; and a ever concern that their nukes could fall in the wrong hands. If we're not in Afghanistan, then where would we be? We would have zero access to that area, because there is no other country that would give it to us. Once we're are gone, there is no going back either.
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think the main reason to be in Afghanistan now is because of the screwed up situation in Pakistan; and a ever concern that their nukes could fall in the wrong hands. If we're not in Afghanistan, then where would we be? We would have zero access to that area, because there is no other country that would give it to us. Once we're are gone, there is no going back either.
    I agree, American.

    There is now an American 'Embassy' in Iraq which can monitor the entire Middle East and have a good idea of what's going on in the area. The same is true of Afghanistan. Both countries are are srrounded by trouble spots and need NATO or American prescence to keep track of what's going on.

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Does this statement from Karzai constitute a formal request for foreign troops to leave his country? If so, will they/should they?

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Does this statement from Karzai constitute a formal request for foreign troops to leave his country? If so, will they/should they?
    It remains to be seen if this is one of the impulsive outbursts for which Mr. Karzai is known. Even if it were a formal request, I believe the U.S. should make its decision strictly based upon the U.S. national interest. If the U.S. interest is sufficiently great to justify remaining in Afghanistan, then Mr. Karzai's request should be ignored.
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It remains to be seen if this is one of the impulsive outbursts for which Mr. Karzai is known. Even if it were a formal request, I believe the U.S. should make its decision strictly based upon the U.S. national interest. If the U.S. interest is sufficiently great to justify remaining in Afghanistan, then Mr. Karzai's request should be ignored.
    Well, I thought that Afghanistan is now a NATO operation. This being the case there will be more considerations than simply the US national interest to consider. In any case, what US national interest is being served there? Afghanistan has never been the main base for terrorists attacking the West (that would be our ally, Saudi Arabia), as far as anyone knows OBL hasn't been based there for several years, and the Taleban have never demonstrated any international ambitions. The opium trade is as flourishing now as it was under the Taleban, so as I asked earlier, what are the goals of the continued operation and what is the exit strategy?
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It remains to be seen if this is one of the impulsive outbursts for which Mr. Karzai is known. Even if it were a formal request, I believe the U.S. should make its decision strictly based upon the U.S. national interest. If the U.S. interest is sufficiently great to justify remaining in Afghanistan, then Mr. Karzai's request should be ignored.
    I'm not so sure I agree that we should remain in a foriegn country in a military manner, if that country tells us to leave.

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I'm not so sure I agree that we should remain in a foriegn country in a military manner, if that country tells us to leave.
    It's the best interests of the Afghan people, as well as international security, that must take top priority, not the wishes of Mr. Karzai,

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's the best interests of the Afghan people, as well as international security, that must take top priority, not the wishes of Mr. Karzai,
    Well, if you're pretending that you have installed a democratic government in the country, then if that government tells you to leave, shouldn't you leave. That IS the voice of the Afghan people, according to you. Isn't NOT leaving tantamount to admitting that the government you have installed is just a puppet of your occupation?
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Karzai wants us out?

    Pffft fine.

    Headlines one year from now "Hamid Karzai was captured by Taliban fighters, tortured and beheaded".

    Whoops!

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    I think that the best thing we can do, is basically use this as an opportunity to get the hell out. Since the new rules of engagement have been implemented, handcuffing our troops, there is no possible way to reach any objective set.

    Karzal, can't be trusted, to say the least, we aren't wanted there by the people according to some here. The left in this country, would rather point to the innocent civilians being killed by our troops there, then worry about our American men and women dying there. It's time to tuck our tails between our legs and remove ourselves from another Vietnam that cannot be won. I would also hope that our aid to that country be withdrawn as well. If we are wanted out, lets do what is asked, but the aid given by American should be removed as well.
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