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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

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    Then you don't call one leader an authoritarian and the other a ruler through unchanging interpretation of religion. You call him a fanatical Islamic murderer, which is what he was. Don't give me that PC crap, cause you don't want to offend a religion.
    You misunderstood what he stated. All he stated was that despite his reforms, he disallowed the one reform that would have made it all matter. You can't reform the society and deny them a voice.

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    From today's edition of The Washington Post:

    President Hamid Karzai on Tuesday issued an ultimatum to NATO forces to stop airstrikes on Afghan homes and warned that if they donít, the Afghan people would drive them out as they have occupying armies in the past.

    The demand was the most serious warning to the coalition that Karzai has issued to date.
    Karzai demands that NATO stop airstrikes in Afghanistan - The Washington Post

    IMO, NATO and the U.S. should ignore Mr. Karzai's latest outburst. Instead, the U.S. and NATO should base their actions on whether their interests--not Mr. Karzai's--are better served from adhering to or rejecting his call. If their interests are better served from ignoring Mr. Karzai's demand, the U.S. and NATO should do just that.

    This latest outburst on the part of the highly erratic Mr. Karzai should come as no surprise. Mr. Karzai remains more part of the problem than the solution. The combination of his suspect legitimacy and the cronyism of his regime has limited support for his regime by Afghans and the country's myriad tribes. Although some modest progress has been made since the current military strategy was put in place last year, I believe the progress is less than what would have been achieved had the Karzai regime's influence been limited or curbed.

    IMO, the imminent strategy review should not ignore dealing with the the issue of the Karzai regime's damaging impact on NATO's efforts to achieve the strategic goals established for Afghanistan. The regime should not be viewed as an immutable reality in Afghanistan. Robust measures can still be taken that essentially isolates the regime and limits its ability to further undermine NATO's efforts.

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    great... now we are the occupying army... the bad guys. Lovely.

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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From today's edition of The Washington Post:



    Karzai demands that NATO stop airstrikes in Afghanistan - The Washington Post

    IMO, NATO and the U.S. should ignore Mr. Karzai's latest outburst. Instead, the U.S. and NATO should base their actions on whether their interests--not Mr. Karzai's--are better served from adhering to or rejecting his call. If their interests are better served from ignoring Mr. Karzai's demand, the U.S. and NATO should do just that.

    This latest outburst on the part of the highly erratic Mr. Karzai should come as no surprise. Mr. Karzai remains more part of the problem than the solution. The combination of his suspect legitimacy and the cronyism of his regime has limited support for his regime by Afghans and the country's myriad tribes. Although some modest progress has been made since the current military strategy was put in place last year, I believe the progress is less than what would have been achieved had the Karzai regime's influence been limited or curbed.

    IMO, the imminent strategy review should not ignore dealing with the the issue of the Karzai regime's damaging impact on NATO's efforts to achieve the strategic goals established for Afghanistan. The regime should not be viewed as an immutable reality in Afghanistan. Robust measures can still be taken that essentially isolates the regime and limits its ability to further undermine NATO's efforts.
    Ask the Native Americans how that worked for them.


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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    great... now we are the occupying army... the bad guys. Lovely.
    We always have been...
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Mr. Karzai should check out the abodeís of Moammar Gadhafi's before he issues these statements.


    *** it, declare victory and get our a** if this quagmire.
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    Re: End Operations in Afghanistan, Karzai Tells NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    End operations in Afghanistan, Karzai tells NATO

    I guess Karzai and the people of Afghanistan have decided the cure is worse than the disease. The drone attacks must be horrifying on many levels. It's too bad the coward terrorists insist on hiding behind women and children.
    Well according to surveys the majority of the people of the Waziristan region support the drone attacks and liken them to holy sparrows sent by God to seek vengeance against for the tyranny of the Taliban.

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