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Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant

Tashah said:
Japanese tweets say that 10,000 people are missing in the area of Minami-Sanriku.

TEPCO nuclear plant incident - 20km evacuation radius from Plant 1 ordered / 10km evacuation radius from Plant 2.

Real-time tweets are available at the link below:

2011 Japanese Earthquake and Tsunami
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I just saw those same reports on NHK. The anchors have recovered their composure but their commentary is still quite grave talking about the nuclear plant issues.
 
The US Geological Survey says that the Japanese archipelago has shifted 8 feet since the quake.

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Tashah said:
The US Geological Survey says that the Japanese archipelago has shifted 8 feet since the quake.

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Wow! and holy crap! I don't know how you engineer a power plant to withstand that kind of, whether intact containment, working backup generators and the like.

Hopefully it doesn't cause any hesitation to building new nuclear power plants...here or there. There really is no substitute for nuclear when it comes to yield and it is a green technology, baring meltdowns. Newer reactor designs eliminate meltdown risks.
 
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I will make one other note: No one should use this catastrophe as an excuse to trivialize the suffering of Japan's people--past or present--or to otherwise denigrate them. Such conduct is not acceptable and it will be infracted without exception.
 
haymarket said:
This is terrible. As a side issue for us here, I wonder what impact it will have on nuclear power in the USA? It certainly cannot help win over more converts to nuclear power.
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I think stuff like this only reaffirms why a lot of people do not want nuclear power plants. I am one of those people.If a nuclear power plant has a meltdown we get another Chernobyl disaster. If a coal power plant explodes we just get now power for a while and a plant to replace.
 
jamesrage said:
I think stuff like this only reaffirms why a lot of people do not want nuclear power plants. I am one of those people.If a nuclear power plant has a meltdown we get another Chernobyl disaster. If a coal power plant explodes we just get now power for a while and a plant to replace.
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These plants are designed much differently than Chernobyl. The TEPCO nuclear cores are now being flooded/cooled with seawater. According to the Japanese nuclear agency, radiation levels are decreasing. At their peak, ambiant levels were equivalent to the exposure an average person experiences during the course of a normal year. Elevated, but no adverse physiological/biological harm is anticipated.
 
It's pretty irritating how people are calling it a "serious design flaw" just because the plant didn't absorb the biggest earthquake in Japan's history without any problems. Enough force was unleashed to move the entire island eight feet. Things built by man can only withstand so much.

jamesrage said:
I think stuff like this only reaffirms why a lot of people do not want nuclear power plants. I am one of those people.If a nuclear power plant has a meltdown we get another Chernobyl disaster. If a coal power plant explodes we just get now power for a while and a plant to replace.
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Another Chernobyl is physically impossible with modern reactor designs.

Nuclear power is incredibly safe. At the end of this situation, maybe people will start to see that.
 
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Deuce said:
It's pretty irritating how people are calling it a "serious design flaw" just because the plant didn't absorb the biggest earthquake in Japan's history without any problems. Enough force was unleashed to move the entire island eight feet. Things built by man can only withstand so much.
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This statement is a pretty clear window into the japanese attitude about life.
 
Explosion did not occur at reactor, new cooling operation begins | Kyodo News

Japanese authorities have confirmed there was an explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant Saturday afternoon but said it did not occur at its troubled No. 1 reactor, brushing off concerns that the quake-triggered problem could develop into a catastrophe.

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The top government spokesman said TEPCO has begun new cooling operations to fill the reactor with sea water and pour in boric acid to prevent an occurrence of criticality, noting it may take several hours to inject water into the reactor.
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This situation is more Three Mile Island than Chernobyl. Relax people, nobody was harmed by Three Mile Island.
 
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From the BBC:

Reuters: The emergency cooling system is no longer functioning at the Fukushima No. 3 reactor, an official from Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has told journalists.
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So the emergency cooling system has completely broken down. This is horrible news. :(
 
Tashah said:
These plants are designed much differently than Chernobyl. The TEPCO nuclear cores are now being flooded/cooled with seawater. According to the Japanese nuclear agency, radiation levels are decreasing. At their peak, ambiant levels were equivalent to the exposure an average person experiences during the course of a normal year. Elevated, but no adverse physiological/biological harm is anticipated.
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So is this the worst that can happen to a nuclear power plant today if there is a meltdown?
 
Deuce said:
Another Chernobyl is physically impossible with modern reactor designs.
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So a nuclear meltdown or explosion wouldn't contaminate a large area?

Nuclear power is incredibly safe. At the end of this situation, maybe people will start to see that.
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Would a meltdown at a nuclear power plant today be any different than the one in Chernobyl?
 
jamesrage said:
I think stuff like this only reaffirms why a lot of people do not want nuclear power plants. I am one of those people.If a nuclear power plant has a meltdown we get another Chernobyl disaster. If a coal power plant explodes we just get now power for a while and a plant to replace.
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Our plants, and most free world plants, are built inside concrete domes, or containments.....
Coal fired plants emit more radioactive crap into the air than a typical nuclear power plant.
 
jamesrage said:
So a nuclear meltdown or explosion wouldn't contaminate a large area?


Would a meltdown at a nuclear power plant today be any different than the one in Chernobyl?
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Read up on Chernobyl, it was far worse than just a meltdown, especially read about it being a different kind of reactor, with no real containment system.
 
UtahBill said:
Our plants, and most free world plants, are built inside concrete domes, or containments.....
Coal fired plants emit more radioactive crap into the air than a typical nuclear power plant.
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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that if a coal power plant and a nuclear power plant explode, the blown up coal power plant can still be cleaned up and a new one rebuilt.
 
It is going to take years to recover from this and Japan will need all the help they can get.

They are now one of our beat allies and we need to do what ever we can to help.

Obama make comments yesterday and it was the first time I didn't have a bad thing to say about it.
 
jamesrage said:
I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that if a coal power plant and a nuclear power plant explode, the blown up coal power plant can still be cleaned up and a new one rebuilt.
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Nuclear plants built under western standards cannot explode, not the nuclear fuel anyway. I think you will find that the explosions in Japan were due to hydrogen buildup. A meltdown can keep a nuke plant from getting rebuilt and put back on line. How many times has that happened in the USA? The media is not the best place to get technical info. A few years back the Phoenix papers reported an explosion that killed several people at the 4 corners plant. The writer called it a nuclear plant. It is a coal fired plant....
 
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jamesrage said:
So a nuclear meltdown or explosion wouldn't contaminate a large area?


Would a meltdown at a nuclear power plant today be any different than the one in Chernobyl?
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No, it wouldn't be anything like Chernobyl.
 
Deuce said:
No, it wouldn't be anything like Chernobyl.
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Russia's infrastructure hadn't taken the hit that Japan's has, in this instance, either.
 
UtahBill said:
Nuclear plants built under western standards cannot explode, not the nuclear fuel anyway. I think you will find that the explosions in Japan were due to hydrogen buildup. A meltdown can keep a nuke plant from getting rebuilt and put back on line. How many times has that happened in the USA? The media is not the best place to get technical info. A few years back the Phoenix papers reported an explosion that killed several people at the 4 corners plant. The writer called it a nuclear plant. It is a coal fired plant....
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Is it just where the nuclear power plant was or is it a much wider area that can not be rebuilt on after a meltdown?
 
No more bare backing a Jap girl.
 
Gray_Fox_86 said:
No more bare backing a Jap girl.
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