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Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

mac said:
Don't you have a pillow to chew on?
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It took awhile but we got down to your core nature, didn't we?

You are just another Bible thumper telling other people how to live their lives in accordance with a book that you don't follow yourself.

And as further proof of your righteousness you get to call me a pillow biter. :roll:

Now do you see why I don't hate you? I can only have pity for people like you.
 
CriticalThought said:
It took awhile but we got down to your core nature, didn't we?

You are just another Bible thumper telling other people how to live their lives in accordance with a book that you don't follow yourself.

And as further proof of your righteousness you get to call me a pillow biter. :roll:

Now do you see why I don't hate you? I can only have pity for people like you.
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So much for this sense of humor you claimed you were exercising on me.
 
mac said:
So much for this sense of humor you claimed you were exercising on me.
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:roll:

Whatever you need to tell yourself buddy. We both know what and who you really are.
 
CriticalThought said:
:roll:

Whatever you need to tell yourself buddy. We both know what and who you really are.
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You certainly seem to think you do.....you haven't had any problem casting about your judgments. Go get your nails done.
 
mac said:
You certainly seem to think you do.....you haven't had any problem casting about your judgments. Go get your nails done.
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Okey dokes. Whatever you say.
 
mac said:
Everything I've read about fraternal birth order previously cites the influence of older brothers outside the womb. That would make it learned. This study claiming it to be prenatal influence is a one off, and appears to have some inconsistencies with it's methods.
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Actually that's what pretty much all studies have claimed, as there is absolutely no evidence to indicate the presence of older brothers has much of an effect socially speaking. Also, I didn't realize you were properly qualified to evaluate the efficacy of these studies.
 
TheBook said:
Actually that's what pretty much all studies have claimed, as there is absolutely no evidence to indicate the presence of older brothers has much of an effect socially speaking. Also, I didn't realize you were properly qualified to evaluate the efficacy of these studies.
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I'm not. I am properly qualified to read the dissenters comments....that's part of a peer review....dissent. Dissent is usually on the outcomes...this has garnered dissent on how it was conducted...not good.
 
mac said:
You certainly seem to think you do.....you haven't had any problem casting about your judgments. Go get your nails done.
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Homophobia. The truth comes out.
 
theplaydrive said:
Homophobia. The truth comes out.
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Whatever...I put up with his hounding long enough. I was nice to him far longer than he was nice to me. I gotta be nice to him because he's gay?
 
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theplaydrive said:
Homophobia. The truth comes out.
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You nailed it. He makes statements like these...

mac said:
no reason to get all butt hurt about it.

oh, wait...
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and later makes statements like these...

mac said:
First off dude, I have yet to categorize, stereotype or belittle you in any way, yet in almost every post you write to me, you do. Why don't you grow up a little.
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In his own mind he can do no wrong.
 
Big Tom said:
Any kind of phobia means your scared of something. I'm not scared, I just don't like it.
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Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
 
disneydude said:
Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
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And yet you're not bothered forcing everyone in society to change to accommodate your views. Hypocrite much?
 
mac said:
And yet you're not bothered forcing everyone in society to change to accommodate your views. Hypocrite much?
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Where's the hypocrisy? I don't believe that anyone should be forced to accept anyone's views. You have the right to be against whatever you want....what you don't have the right to do is believe that everyone else is entitled to your opinion. That is the arrogance of your view.
 
disneydude said:
Where's the hypocrisy? I don't believe that anyone should be forced to accept anyone's views. You have the right to be against whatever you want....what you don't have the right to do is believe that everyone else is entitled to your opinion. That is the arrogance of your view.
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If he has the right to be against anything he likes, why give him crap about it?
 
disneydude said:
Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
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But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.
 
Big Tom said:
But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.
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The "gay lobby" is not forcing anyone else to live by their choices, only that they be allowed to do so.

The government should not interfere with peoples' personal lives, but that's exactly what they are doing here. When the state sponsors things like marriage (due to things like tax benefits etc.) denying those things to some people is denying them equal protection under the law. Stay out of it if possible. If not, give everyone the same rights.
 
iamitter said:
The "gay lobby" is not forcing anyone else to live by their choices, only that they be allowed to do so.
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You think changing society doesn't do that?
 
Big Tom said:
But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.
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Equal Protection scrutiny means that in order for there to be disparity in the laws, i.e. marriage laws, the state must show a legitimate state interest, some reason to do so. It cannot simply be "this is what the majority of our state citizenry wants". There has to be an actual interest. How important that interest is is based on what the characteristic being discriminated against is. Race and religion gets highest priority, sex and bastard children is next, and then pretty much all other characteristics, but even the smallest level of scrutiny must be backed by some interest of the state.

It can easily be proven that all state arguments against SSM so far can be shot down by either showing that the state doesn't regulate opposite sex marriages based on the couple's ability to procreate against the main argument that marriage is for procreation. Or, another argument has been that SSM will cost state/federal government money, eventhough, almost every financial study done on this issue, including one done by the federal government itself, says that SSM is likely to bring in money to the government through either personal taxes or increased business due to same sex couples getting married.
 
mac said:
You think changing society doesn't do that?
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How does changing the meaning of one word to include other types of couples, without even excluding those couples that it already describes, change society? And even if it does, how is that change bad?
 
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