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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    @Jerry,

    Most people in Gens X, Y, and Z support marriage equality.

    As Baby Boomers and Greatest Gen die off, the issue will become a non issue. As politicians run for office, they will seek the younger generation's vote. They will appoint judges that are pro marriage equality. The end result is that your defeat on this issue is inevitable.

    And yes, a 33 year old is an old fart compared to me.
    Taunting someone who can't respond? Really?

    Well, I guess that's one way to "win" an argument.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    That's not really cool to taunt someone who can't respond.
    I was replying to his last post to me. I just didn't bother going back and quoting it since I doubt he was going to come back to this thread now that he can't reply to it.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I was replying to his last post to me. I just didn't bother going back and quoting it since I doubt he was going to come back to this thread now that he can't reply to it.
    Sorry, I'm throwing the BS flag on this. This was Jerry's last post to you,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    He was asking about ME, not anyone per-se, and no, no one could marry a 1st cousin in CA at the time before I got married. You seem to be ignorant of that fact.
    Your response had nothing to do with this post.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sorry, I'm throwing the BS flag on this. This was Jerry's last post to you,



    Your response had nothing to do with this post.
    I didn't even see that post. I was responding to this one.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059363309

    You might wanna get your BS detector calibrated.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm not challenging that it's their choice, I'm pointing out that it's an expansion of government, even if the expansion is wanted.
    I would have to disagree. Expansion of government is giving them more power(s). It's not the expansion of coverage of a power already in place. Adding the ability to vote to blacks and women didn't expand the government. It merely covered more people in it's power to set who can and cannot vote. Heck for that matter, for all that it expanded the potential voter base, it restricted or shrank the government all the more.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's not what either one of us are saying. The states have the right to enact laws to regulate their societies. If the laws they pass are unconstitutional the SCOTUS will strike them down. That doesn't mean the states no longer have the rights to make and enforce laws and it doesn't give the USG undue right to meddle in the affairs of the states.
    Okay, so your stating its perfectly fine for states to pass unconstitutional laws because they can enforce them until SCOTUS strikes it down? How amazingly fiscally responsible of you.

    The CONSTITUTION has a supremacy clause. The CONSTITUTION also includes the Equal Protection Clause that puts limits on the ability of the government...including state governments due to the supremacy clause...on discrimination under the law.

    So I ask you again....are you suggesting that the Equal Protection Clause does not apply to the states?

    States also very much do have the right to define categories of people that laws apply to and that they don't apply to.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you've never heard pro-SSM cry discrimination then you have no exposure to the topic.

    The problem with SSM is that there are no arguments unique to it. Every reason to allow SSM can be applied to other unions which those very advocates oppose, thus nullifying their own position.

    When a group invokes the 14th, and wishes for other groups to be left out, just as pro-SSM does, then they need to distinguish themselves from those other groups.
    Yes, I'm replying to posts as I hit them which is why I might make some arguments that have aleady been made in response (such as my last one). My appologies.

    To be guite honest I've never heard any group advocating for SSM claiming to be against anything except for maybe blood relation marriages on that common assumption that the marriage would include being sexual with each other.

    Something that occured to me. Would a sexual relation between two blood relations of the same sex be a problem since there is no chance of any birth defects or other genetic problems? My mind goes wierd places sometimes.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I would have to disagree. Expansion of government is giving them more power(s). It's not the expansion of coverage of a power already in place. Adding the ability to vote to blacks and women didn't expand the government. It merely covered more people in it's power to set who can and cannot vote. Heck for that matter, for all that it expanded the potential voter base, it restricted or shrank the government all the more.
    Blacks having the right to vote and women did not expand govt or COST the rest of us...it was a justified right.
    Homosexual marriage is all about MONEY. Its all about benefit sharing and passing on Social security and and insurances it will cost the taxpayers a fortune
    It has zero to do with love....Ill be all for homosexual marriage if everyone also agrees that single americans love their mothers fathers sisters and brothers just as much as a homosexual male loves his buddy...and when single americans can pass their benefits and insurance and Social Security to their immediate family...
    I would like to know how you prove that two men or two women are really not heterosexuals posing as homosexuals just to share their benefits and Social Security etc.
    This whole thing is absurd its a about a handful of americans that just want what they want and they want it right now...pfffffffffft to them...Your abnormal and you need to come to grips with that and realize the rest of NORMAL america doesnt have to cater to you.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Homosexual marriage is all about MONEY. Its all about benefit sharing and passing on Social security and and insurances it will cost the taxpayers a fortune
    It has zero to do with love.


    Wow!

    So homosexuals don't love eachother at all?

    And they all want to do it JUST for the benefit right?

    Well if we're going to talk about costing tax payers a fortune, lets get rid of marriage benefits all together.

    I mean honestly.

    Only heterosexuals get married for love.

    Look at this happy couple:


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