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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Again, not if benefits one group in favor of another. I'm not sure what safe and pleasant have to do with SSM.
    There's a lot of groups left out of marriage. You're arguing that we have to include all of them. **** that.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You quoted my rational already, though, so what do you want me to do other than copy-paste what's already said?
    Your rationale was flawed, as I showed.


    SSM itself is wrong, because either way homosexuality is either a sex related stress disorder or a neurological birth defect. At it's base it's invalid, so if you want it accepted you need to pony up some substantial benefits to the society at large.
    I choked a bit there. Your proof for that is where?

    I can do that with gay adoption. I can do that with gays in the military. However, gays aren't particularly interested in what marriage is about, so there's little if any reason at all to even look at a news clip of their cute lil protests let alone actively support them with time and money.
    OK, so I see you're just trolling now. I'm not interested in this kind of debate.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There's a lot of groups left out of marriage. You're arguing that we have to include all of them. **** that.
    Yes, I think all should be included. Your brilliant reasoning for opposing it boils down to "Because I feel like it".
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Your rationale was flawed, as I showed.
    Well, no you didn't, but I'm not going to pull teeth to get you to illustrate either.


    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    I choked a bit there. Your proof for that is where?
    I have links in hand, so when you show yourself to be someone who will get into the down n dirty and stop going in circles I will absolutely share.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Yes, I think all should be included. Your brilliant reasoning for opposing it boils down to "Because I feel like it".
    Adults marrying children.

    Siblings, first cousins, and parents marrying adult children.

    Contagious diseases.

    Taking advantage of the mentally handicapped.

    You just said you're fine with these.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well, no you didn't, but I'm not going to pull teeth to get you to illustrate either.




    I have links in hand, so when you show yourself to be someone who will get into the down n dirty and stop going in circles I will absolutely share.



    Adults marrying children.

    Siblings, first cousins, and parents marrying adult children.

    Contagious diseases.

    Taking advantage of the mentally handicapped.

    You just said you're fine with these.
    There is no scientific consensus on what causes homosexuality, most believe it is a mix of things.


    You're right, I should clarify what I said. As long as someone agrees, is in their right mind, and can think for themselves, I think they should be allowed to get married.
    Mentally handicapped, that is clearly out. Children under a certain age can't think completely clearly. Small children can't for example imagine a world other than their own - they are to an extent sociopaths.
    If siblings are consenting adults, then I think they should have the right to get married.


    Now, I don't like most of these. However, that does not let me infringe upon their freedoms.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Again, not if benefits one group in favor of another.
    Laws benefit the law-abiding at the detriment of the law evader all the time. One group over another.

    I'm not sure what safe and pleasant have to do with SSM.
    Irrelevant. The state has the right to regulate itself to promote an environment it's citizens want to live in.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Hey guys, is there any way we can stop calling homosexuality a birth defect or disorder? It is neither of these. Let's discuss the issue, not debase the minority.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Hey guys, is there any way we can stop calling homosexuality a birth defect or disorder?
    No, but I could certainly get more creative when I do it.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No, but I could certainly get more creative when I do it.
    No. Please stop. It's debasing to call homosexuality a birth defect or a disorder. We have plenty of homosexuals that post here, and all of them are perfectly well-adjusted, normal, everyday individuals. Again, feel free to disagree with the issue. Let's just avoid debasing the minority.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    No. Please stop. It's debasing to call homosexuality a birth defect or a disorder.
    That's the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    We have plenty of homosexuals that post here, and all of them are perfectly well-adjusted, normal, everyday individuals.
    Mhmm, and? I don't read the unwritten sub-text, so if you have a message you need to say it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Again, feel free to disagree with the issue. Let's just avoid debasing the minority.

    Thanks again.
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