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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So there are "qualified" people you can marry?

    You are definitely no small government conservative Jerry. You are advocating for government intrusion into personal lives.

    The fact is that the Supreme Court of the United States established that marriage is a fundamental right and the state has no grounds to dictate who you can and cannot marry without a legitimate basis for doing so.

    Repeatedly posting a ruling from a state Supreme Court is not going to change that fact.
    You only have the right to marry if you are not already married.

    If you are not married, and you are a US citizen, of legal age or have your parent's written consent, are not deemed mentally deficient, are sober, and do not have a blood born disease; then you have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex, who is not closely related to you, of legal age or has their parent's written consent, is not deemed mentally deficient, is sober, and does not have a blood born disease.

    I mean forget about taking anything off the list, I want to expand it. Without comprehensive pre-marital personal and financial counseling, mixed religion, mixed race, and any person raising small children should be out-of-bounds.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    SSM is not necessarily an automatic under equal protection. The states have the right to restrict applicability of law.
    Not under the Supremacy Clause. If the SCOTUS rules under equal protection it is binding on the states.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So, only gays will get the right to marry the same-sex?
    No.....Straight people would have that right as well.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No.....Straight people would have that right as well.
    If we can't do it now either, gays can't say we can do something they can not, hence there is no discrimination.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Oh really?

    Exactly why does the government, solely on the basis of my sex, have the right to limit who I choose to marry?
    Well, gee, that's easy.

    Marriage is only legal between a man and a woman, silly.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, gee, that's easy.

    Marriage is only legal between a man and a woman, silly.
    He asked "Exactly why does the government". What authority is given to the government to decide who its legal between?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    He asked "Exactly why does the government". What authority is given to the government to decide who its legal between?
    The 10th Amendment.

    Marriage is not a right specifically reserved to the people or given to the federal government, so as per the 10th amendment it falls to the state.

    In this way marriage is business the State engages in with the people, not something the people do by themselves and ask the state to merely certify or notarize.

    Far from a private contract, marriage is first an agreement with the state and second an agreement with your spouse.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The 10th Amendment.

    Marriage is not a right specifically reserved to the people or given to the federal government, so as per the 10th amendment it falls to the state.
    And it is taken from the people and given to the states why?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    And it is taken from the people and given to the states why?
    The people didn't have it in the first place for it to be taken from them.

    It was never given to the people or the fed, that's why it was given to the state.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    He asked "Exactly why does the government". What authority is given to the government to decide who its legal between?
    Remember that part in the constitution that says anything not covered is the right of the states or people to decide? I paraphrased of course.
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