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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You nailed it. He makes statements like these...

    and later makes statements like these...

    In his own mind he can do no wrong.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    Any kind of phobia means your scared of something. I'm not scared, I just don't like it.
    Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
    And yet you're not bothered forcing everyone in society to change to accommodate your views. Hypocrite much?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And yet you're not bothered forcing everyone in society to change to accommodate your views. Hypocrite much?
    Where's the hypocrisy? I don't believe that anyone should be forced to accept anyone's views. You have the right to be against whatever you want....what you don't have the right to do is believe that everyone else is entitled to your opinion. That is the arrogance of your view.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Where's the hypocrisy? I don't believe that anyone should be forced to accept anyone's views. You have the right to be against whatever you want....what you don't have the right to do is believe that everyone else is entitled to your opinion. That is the arrogance of your view.
    If he has the right to be against anything he likes, why give him crap about it?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its fine that you "don't like it"...but who are you to believe that you have the right to force others to live by your views? Rather arrogant, isn't it?
    But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.
    The "gay lobby" is not forcing anyone else to live by their choices, only that they be allowed to do so.

    The government should not interfere with peoples' personal lives, but that's exactly what they are doing here. When the state sponsors things like marriage (due to things like tax benefits etc.) denying those things to some people is denying them equal protection under the law. Stay out of it if possible. If not, give everyone the same rights.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    The "gay lobby" is not forcing anyone else to live by their choices, only that they be allowed to do so.
    You think changing society doesn't do that?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    But thats exactly what the gay lobby is doing to the rest of the country.
    Equal Protection scrutiny means that in order for there to be disparity in the laws, i.e. marriage laws, the state must show a legitimate state interest, some reason to do so. It cannot simply be "this is what the majority of our state citizenry wants". There has to be an actual interest. How important that interest is is based on what the characteristic being discriminated against is. Race and religion gets highest priority, sex and bastard children is next, and then pretty much all other characteristics, but even the smallest level of scrutiny must be backed by some interest of the state.

    It can easily be proven that all state arguments against SSM so far can be shot down by either showing that the state doesn't regulate opposite sex marriages based on the couple's ability to procreate against the main argument that marriage is for procreation. Or, another argument has been that SSM will cost state/federal government money, eventhough, almost every financial study done on this issue, including one done by the federal government itself, says that SSM is likely to bring in money to the government through either personal taxes or increased business due to same sex couples getting married.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You think changing society doesn't do that?
    How does changing the meaning of one word to include other types of couples, without even excluding those couples that it already describes, change society? And even if it does, how is that change bad?
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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